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Darla
I believe in the right to bare arms too, but I really wish guys who do it would lift a few weights first. Just my opinion.
Romney loses, what now for Republicans?
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RUNE go fuck off. Romney MIGHT HAVE added to the debt, Obama DEFINITELY added 6 trillion to the debt and blamed Bush for it all. He spent more in 4 years than Bush did in 8 years,and Bush had wars going on,while Obama was winding down the war. He's going to rack up more debt in the next 4 years. Will he still be blaming Bush in 2016?
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Sweet Jane
It's always good to see that. It's also the flaw of Southern Strategy for Republicans. There's just not enough angry white guys to go around to make it a winning strategy anymore. They have to reach out to other demographics and to do so they will, as DH pointed out, change some of their policies.
A good example would be womens health. If Republicans ran on the position of "We don't believe in abortion on demand as a form of birth control. We believe it should only be used when the womans life and health are in jeapordy or when it is a case of rape or incest. We also believe a woman has an unrestricted rigth to access to birth control as determined by her and her physician as a private health matter.
Sure, some religious conservatives wouldn't like that but most Americans either agree with that point of view or find it one they can live with if not in complete agreement. That's just one example.
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Sweet Jane
I support the right to bare arms too. Bare legs are even better!
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Sweet Jane
I agree. I beleive your analysis is essentially correct. The question is, how will they do that? Specifically, what policies would they change or compromise on to reach out to those groups?
Really, pal, I am trying to help here. Romney had NO PLAN to lower the debt. That is a fact. When you stop ignoring facts, you will have a chance. Until then you are fucked, like right now.
In fact, Romney planned to increase defence spending. Get serious.
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MEOW
The Repubs didn't agree with the kid's solution so how do you expect Obama to solve the adult problem?
Again, it comes back to the Conservative mindset that a rule is a rule and it stays that way regardless of how unrealistic it is. There can be some arrangement made where the "kids" are obliged to sponsor their parents. Or the parents have to have a job/business. Or some other solution but the Repubs aren't looking for a solution. It was the same thing with ObamaCare. The Repubs didn't want any government involvement so Obama had no choice but to figuratively have them leave the class and stand in the hall.
Not only is it unrealistic to deport the people after they have been in the country for 20 years but it's illogical to do so. The young adults who have been educated here are the backbone of the country. To deport the parents and have the children leave with them and then step up immigration due to the low birth rate is absurd. The Repubs talk about rewarding illegal immigrants but as the old saying goes the situation is what it is. Why replace someone who has fully integrated into society with someone from a foreign country?
I support the right to bare arms too. Bare legs are even better!
Bare breasts too, like in Europe and Vermont.
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Sweet Jane
You need to get your math straight. Obama contributed 4 trillion to the debt. Two trillion of which he inerited via TARP, and as a response to mitigate the Bush recession. He also cut about 500 billion over the last two years by ending the Immoral war in Iraq and we will see further savings when we withdraw from Afghanistan. So, sell that soap to someone else. Three fourths of our national debt occured under Republican presidents or as a direct result of their failed policies.
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We should get some sort of pool going on Dixie's first thread - # of paragraphs, # of exclamation points & theme.
I'm saying at least 7 paragraphs. It might be a more subdued tone, so maybe only about 10 exclamation points.
As for theme, Dix has 2 standard ones for losing - it will either be "Republicans work better in the minority," or "I have my guns & supplies stockpiled in my bunker, and I'm set to survive the Mad Max wasteland that you pinheads will create better than anyone." Could be a combo.
I'm saying at least 7 paragraphs. It might be a more subdued tone, so maybe only about 10 exclamation points.
As for theme, Dix has 2 standard ones for losing - it will either be "Republicans work better in the minority," or "I have my guns & supplies stockpiled in my bunker, and I'm set to survive the Mad Max wasteland that you pinheads will create better than anyone." Could be a combo.
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Darla
Well they are blaming this on Chris Christie, that's from Dick Morris' self-pitying mouth today. So you can expect that to spread. I never thought I could feel sorry for Christie, but if that guy really has national ambitions he in is trouble because the R's want to hang Romney's stinking corpse around his neck. And really all the guy did was not react in a partisan manner to a terrible disaster.
Also Romney's post first debate momentum had already stopped before Sandy, but they are lying about it and I bet it sticks.
Also Romney's post first debate momentum had already stopped before Sandy, but they are lying about it and I bet it sticks.
Then they will never get that vote....because the fair way to handle illegals is to deport them first, then jail if it happens again....
Save this thread, and come back to it 4 years from now. See where the debt is and the economy.That is, if you can afford to have the internet,and electricity to power it. I will bet....hmm...I say we are WELL OVER 20 trillion in debt,maybe closer to 25 trillion. IF I am wrong(and I would be glad to be wrong)I will say so. WIll you admit if you are wrong?
You are one of the reasons Republicans need to modernize! You are a dying breed, bravo, you need to come to the realization.
The Dream Act will happen.
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I saw Dick Morris' column; usually, I'm not a big gloater after elections, and I'm generally just relieved more than vindictive. But it was nice to watch him squirm a bit.
As for Christie, he's gov of NJ, so any cache with Democrats won't hurt him at all there. If the GOP wants to blame him nationally, I doubt he'll care much. And you're right about the big "Romney momentum" - talk about an overhyped, overplayed hand.
Where's that chicken little video when you need it.
Pay attention, I will only say this one more time.
Dems are the fiscally conservative party now. Been the case for 30 something years.
Stop watching Fox, things will slowly become clearer to you.
People want competent but limited government. ???????????????
Yet they vote for neither.....doesn't compute....
We see the incompetence, we watch the government grow and erode our freedoms and yet re-elect the cause .....
So the only logical conclusion is that people are voting with their wallets......everyone is on the dole to one degree or another, some only on the peripheral, some
deeply reliant on the handouts....that is what they vote to protect.....their greed, and screw the next generation.
They need a scapegoat, it doesn't have anything to do with bad, outdated policies, it is Christie's fault because he was Chrisie, being rude and to the point. I don't think this will hurt him in his state.
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The Almighty
ROFLMAO... wow, you are seriously delusional
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Sweet Jane
That's a deal. It won't really take that much sacrifice to get the debt under control. With then ending of both the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the winding down of the military industrial establishment to reasonable levels, we can simply allow the Bush era tax cuts expire (and yea I'm all for shared sacrifice so let them expire across the board, not just high income earners) the road to ending budget deficits is not that painfull. With the economy gaining momentem from recovering from the Bush recession, I'll be glad to make that visit with you in 4 years and if the debt is at 20 trillion then I'll consider voting for a Republican candidate as long as they are not a right wing ideologue or a Wall Street plutocrat. It wouldn't be the first time for me. I've voted for far more Republicans than I have Democrats.