And how has your hatred and ridicule stopped stopped those confrontations and reduced bigotry?
Did people who opposed gay marriage hate gays?
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And how has your hatred and ridicule stopped stopped those confrontations and reduced bigotry?
Did people who opposed gay marriage hate gays?
Well, it will shock you to learn that not everyone thinks the same, and just because CA is overwhlemingly blue doesn't mean all its people are.
Prop 8 barely passed. It won by only 600,000 votes in a state with 37,000,000 people. Only 19% of Californians voted for Prop 8. So to you, that means...the entire state and the 17% of Californians who voted against it are bigoted?
See, this is what happens when you make lazy, shitty arguments. I can very easily do due diligence on your argument and start pulling at threads. The first thread to pull on is the fact that you say liberals are bigoted because 19% of Californians voted for Prop 8, while the rest didn't. And since 7,000,000 people voted for it, that makes the other 30,000,000 bigots? Since when?
NO! What we have is you very dishonestly misrepresenting the Prop 8 vote by deliberately leaving key pieces of information out (a lie by omission) which is kinda your personal style of debate. You say something that on its face sounds bad, but the moment you start diving into it you find it becomes shakier and shakier an argument, and it's really you lazily shitting forth crap on a message board just to feed your own narcissism.
You are the worst kind of fucking liar there is.
First of all, I don't believe a fucking thing you say about yourself.
Secondly, no one is calling for Communism today. It's not 1984, it's 2018. It was almost 40 years ago. Democrats have changed quite a bit in those 40 years, but Conservatives have remained the exact same. So what was once acceptable is now bigotry. Democrats and liberals have advanced with the times, why do we have to accommodate people who refuse to do so today? Because of their feelings, right? Isn't that your argument? That we should be nice to bigots because if we're nice to them, they'll stop being bigots. Yeah, maybe in Bizarro World. Instead, we accommodated Conservatives after Bush, and they gave us Trump. So fuck you and fuck accommodations.
Not true. I have given several examples of liberal intolerance that was not a reaction to conservative intolerance.
For example, a speaker at a college who want opposes affirmative action. He is not intolerant--he just thinks it is bad policy harmful to all concerned. This guy just wants to speak peacefully to students interested in hearing his view. Those who shout him down or block entrance to the hall are intolerant of his views. That is inherent liberal intolerance.
Bullshit.
LOL!
See how you're moving those goalposts!?
No one called for Venezuelan-style socialism! So not only did you have to move the goalposts from Communism, but you had to construct another straw man argument.
Man, you're the worst fucking person in the world. Just absolutely fucking awful. There's nothing of merit there...only narcissism and entitlement. Guess what? You may have been old enough to remember the 80's, but you took nothing away from it.
LOL! See, and this is a perfect example of you trying to seek out victimhood status for yourself to cast yourself as some kind of victim so that you can use that victimhood to justify lazy positions and poor judgment.
Fuck you, loser.
LOL!
Look at those goalposts move!
So 33-50% is a pretty statistically and significantly large range. So much so that it borders on the unacceptable because the variance is that broad.
So why not just admit you talked out of your ass, used a stereotype, and refused to admit you're full of shit?
I'd have so much more respect for you people if you admitted you were bullshitting. But you refuse to do that, so you try and jury-rig arguments post-hoc to support what are ultimately untenable and indefensible positions and statements.
I am not trying to be clever. It is just that I am having trouble getting across a simple concept you keep missing.
If a liberal says "I hate gun owners" that is not a reaction against intolerance. It is initiating intolerance. The gun owner who says "I hate people who hate gun owners" is the reaction caused by liberal intolerance.
I can understand why you want to hate people for views you oppose. You seem to have a lot of anger.
Yes, they are wildly different.
Canada is wildly different than the former USSR. Venezuela is wildly different than Germany.
Your style seems to be to make big, broad statement that you then whittle down and shift within the parameters, post-hoc.
Weak sauce.
So again with the goalpost shifts and redefinition.
Intolerance and hate are the same thing, for the purposes of this debate. Always have been in the dozens of posts so far.
What you are trying to do is unilaterally change the parameters, post-hoc, in order to shift your argument to more secure footing.
Chump move.
Yes, I am entitled to believe the truth. Trying to justify your hatred by blaming it on others is the lazy position.
Yup. And ironically, both Conservative positions.
See, this is an attempt by you to try and redefine the parameters of the debate.
I'm not going to accommodate that.
Fuck off.
cawacko
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El Oh El. You think pretty highly of yourself kid.
Are you claiming a country can be communist and not have a socialist economic system.
Canada, Venezuela, and Germany are not communist.
cawacko
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Of course. You want to power to shut up anyone you disagree with and you do it by labeling them racist. You can tell me to Fvck off all you want but it doesn't change that simple fact
How so?
By ignoring the problem, I'm not accommodating the problem.
I'm not saying we should round up and kill every Conservative asshole, like they want to do with gays...all I'm saying is that we should ignore them and not consider their voice in the public space or in public debate. They have nothing of value to offer. All they have is bigotry, hatred, and narcissism. The thing they want most is to be noticed and accommodated. So I'm saying simply, don't. When you stop trying to accommodate the self-entitled, things get done so much faster and easier.
He really does. Must be a millennial. Not to bright however they are all winners!
Then, I assume you favor legal marriage for polygamists as well as gays.
cawacko
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He calls where he lives the Dirty South. It's definitely a millennial thing.