I disagree, when you turn one nation against another, it is not love.
I disagree, when you turn one nation against another, it is not love.
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And who the fuck are you to ask such a question?
He didn't turn one against the other. He simply chose the one that followed his commandments over another.
Their actions shows him to have chosen "rightly".
But again, it isn't hatred of one person, as you insisted it was here. God hates sin, not people. Even when he rejects a people it is because they are not acting according to his "law", not for something as petty as the hatred of an individual.
Anyway, both times it mentions that got "hated" Esau, it is simply a metaphor speaking of the "choice". An analogy.
You know what attachment is. You don't have a clue about what love is.
Says who?
Granule - you're a total peabrain. What you wrote above is meaningless...completely lame.
Why would God choose? It is two Jewish writers justifying why they believed they were Yahweh's favored nation and why they were better than their Pagan neighbors. I think it is a case of extreme dislike, if not hatred, and in the case of Paul justifying a Messiah being sent to the favored nation, which ended up rejecting him, if you believe the myth.
The proof is in the White House, bubble head. One need only review the past 3 1/2 years to gauge how stupid these errant "white folks" really were.
Just like he choose Able over Cain, it is the same story, different outcomes. The Jews feeling their superiority.
Again, if you actually read the passages, it is basically a contest. It's like you actually do not read what I write, you quote something with an explanation contained therein then ask for an explanation.
I'm done with explaining your magic man to you though. You want God to hate people, and refuse to understand a very simple analogy given by Malachi and Paul. I'm good with that. You want God to be hate...
I'm just telling you, there isn't an instance in the Bible that God hates anybody. He hates their actions. He punishes a people for their actions, not because he "hates" them.
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Really? I'm thinking one need only review the GOP presidential bid of 2012, to see how stupid, errant, and bankrupt the Republicans are, white and black and brown and polka dot. And if you think Mitt Romney has a chance of toppling President Obama, the economy "turning around, bin Laden "dead", and the upcoming debates, notwithstanding, then you should either quit the drugs you're using or take up some others. Pwned, in spades.
The only thing turning around is your own possessed head. The economy's still in the tank, moron. And Bin Laden is dead because of the superior skills of our armed forces. The only thing that piece of shit in the White House did was green light the execution. Yeah, I'll give the edge to Obama in the debates, but that's only because the shameless fuck will say anything to get four more years.
Damo, Ishiah, Jeremiah, and other books are full of Yahwh cursing and condemning the Edomites, if the writers didn't hate the nation, then they showed the Yahwh was trying very hard to make their existence unbearable because of predestination. There was no good reason for Yahwh to favor Able or Jacob, he just did.
I'll say it one more time. In each of those contexts, they specifically say why he curses and condemns them. It isn't because of hatred, it is because they act against His Will.
Basically, God will punish you for sin, but he doesn't hate you. He hates what you do.
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"In the tank", courtesy of George W. Bush and Co., however according to the most astute economists, it's "turning around". Retired General Wesley Clark, stated on PoliticsNation, this very day, that it was a gutsy move on President Obama's part, despite warnings to the contrary by Biden and his chief of staff to forego the operation until further intel could be garnered. So to say that the entire success was predicate upon the forces doing the president's bidding is to deny the obvious.
LOL. Has nothing to do with "saying anything to get four more years"....it has everything to do with intellect, being able to convey, intelligently, coherently, and decisively, plan for the future....something Mitt Romney couldn't do during the GOP campaign. You're quite funny and entertaining, though.
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Uh, "hate" is a human quality and foible. I doubt, seriously, if God is subject to the human condition.
I'll say it one more time, also, it is Mythos and God didn't choose Jacob or Cain, it is just a story to make the Jews feel they were better than their pagan neighbors and Od loved them while he cursed others. They still feel this way.
So, you truly believe that god chose the Jews because other nation displeased him? Again, these were Jewish writers justifying why God choose them and why pagan nations were cursed and why their actions against these nations were just.
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Hush, truth...and they are playing the victims and the "set upon" to this very day. I have zero sympathy. There are plenty of Jews who want peace with the Palestinians, but the Israeli Government is not about to have it. Zionism is not the way. I've been pro-Palestinian since '75.
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So, there was nothing obviously wrong with Cain's character?
I think being rejected by Yahweh made him angry and jealous of his brother. Being so obviously rejected by one one you believe should love and protect you can relly screw a person up.
Cain was not a real person, in my opinion, but a literary character devised to show that agrarians were inferior to nomadic shepards. Another Jews are the chosen race story, very common in the Bible.