Republicans will lose on abortion

biological programming, not altruism
I’d also die for my husband, and my best friend, that isn’t biological programming.

altruism:
the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.

I practice it, I often put others before myself. It’s not hard for me to do. I have always felt that helping others benefits everyone.
 
That's a answer to a question that wasn't asked. It's not about culture.

Supporting innocent lives not being killed because of convenience has no decade.

You're the one narrowly defining it in provocative and emotional language. Women have a right to control their reproductive biology. Abortion is just one volatile wedge issue on a particular aspect of womens rights to autonomy and self determination. That's a ship that's already sailed and as long as the majority of women feel that witin limited circumstances they have the right to terminate a pregnancy then they will maintain that right. So that war is done and over with those who oppose abortion under all circumstances have lost that war. It's over with. Kapoot. You're never going to turn the clock back to that because it's every bit as immoral as legalized abortion for any reason.

and that's just one example of a Culture war that conservatives have lost and cannot possibly ever win. Women now have political rights and with that they will control their reproductive biology. So fight that all you want but that war is over and the women won.
 
what part was false

"It doesn't even matter if you could convince pro-choicers it's a full grown baby on day 0 of gestation. They do not care. They believe pregnancy by default makes women second class citizens, harming their ability to work/have careers, harming their economic parity with men, harming their overall freedom. They believe killing a developing baby and sucking it's brains out with a suction tube is a worthy price to pay. Of course, if you falcon punch them in the ovaries or put ru486 in their coffee because you don't want the kid either, they will still make sure you get charged with murder. It's only a human life when it is convenient."
 
You're the one narrowly defining it in provocative and emotional language. Women have a right to control their reproductive biology. Abortion is just one volatile wedge issue on a particular aspect of womens rights to autonomy and self determination. That's a ship that's already sailed and as long as the majority of women feel that witin limited circumstances they have the right to terminate a pregnancy then they will maintain that right. So that war is done and over with those who oppose abortion under all circumstances have lost that war. It's over with. Kapoot. You're never going to turn the clock back to that because it's every bit as immoral as legalized abortion for any reason.

and that's just one example of a Culture war that conservatives have lost and cannot possibly ever win. Women now have political rights and with that they will control their reproductive biology. So fight that all you want but that war is over and the women won.

Interesting how so many women that you say are able to control their own affairs have to rely on those of us they tell to butt out of their choice when they can't afford the one THEY made. In case you weren't aware, the food stamps, welfare, WIC, and any other social programs women who choose to have children use to feed themselves and their kids are paid for by those of us they told to butt out of their choice. If the choice is 100% theirs, why isn't the responsibility to feed the kids THEY chose to have 100% theirs?

"within limited circumstances"? You mean from zero up to nine months of gestation having the choice to abort? That sounds unlimited.

Someone that would abort a living being because she doesn't like the results of the choice she made to spread her legs is a born loser. Hopefully each and every one of them will have the end result as the innocent life they choice to take.
 
biological programming, not altruism

Nope. Soldiers in battle sometimes die to save their comrades. Firefighters sometimes die to save lives in a burning building. Millions of people willingly donate to charities to help others that they don't know.

These are all examples of altruism.
 
I’d also die for my husband, and my best friend, that isn’t biological programming.

altruism:
the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.

I practice it, I often put others before myself. It’s not hard for me to do. I have always felt that helping others benefits everyone.

You've stated several people for which you'd claim to die. Since you also support abortion as a choice, why don't you perform a retroactive one on yourself and get to it.

What you don't find it hard doing is thinking that it's your place to determine how much and to what level someone else should help others. You can feel that helping others benefits everyone all you want as long as it applies to what YOU do. Outside of that, you have no say.
 
Nope. Soldiers in battle sometimes die to save their comrades. Firefighters sometimes die to save lives in a burning building. Millions of people willingly donate to charities to help others that they don't know.

These are all examples of altruism.

What altruism isn't is bleeding hearts like you thinking it's your place to determine how anyone but yourself helps another person.

Prove you're a lying coward and how much I control you.
 
You've stated several people for which you'd claim to die. Since you also support abortion as a choice, why don't you perform a retroactive one on yourself and get to it.

What you don't find it hard doing is thinking that it's your place to determine how much and to what level someone else should help others. You can feel that helping others benefits everyone all you want as long as it applies to what YOU do. Outside of that, you have no say.
You’re so boring kitty litter, you repeat the same trite lines in every post you make, no wonder so many ignore you.
 
You’re so boring kitty litter, you repeat the same trite lines in every post you make, no wonder so many ignore you.

Just as I thought. You're all talk and no action.

Cunts like OwlWoman have me on ignore because I made that worthless bitch look like a fool.

I'm still waiting on you to prove you'd die for the family members you mentioned. Get to it, cunt, and abort yourself.
 
Just as I thought. You're all talk and no action.

Cunts like OwlWoman have me on ignore because I made that worthless bitch look like a fool.

I'm still waiting on you to prove you'd die for the family members you mentioned. Get to it, cunt, and abort yourself.
So, boring...
 
"It doesn't even matter if you could convince pro-choicers it's a full grown baby on day 0 of gestation. They do not care. They believe pregnancy by default makes women second class citizens, harming their ability to work/have careers, harming their economic parity with men, harming their overall freedom. They believe killing a developing baby and sucking it's brains out with a suction tube is a worthy price to pay. Of course, if you falcon punch them in the ovaries or put ru486 in their coffee because you don't want the kid either, they will still make sure you get charged with murder. It's only a human life when it is convenient."

how is that wrong? I literally saw rashid talib basically say what I typed out. I didn't even think it was controversial. If a woman is forced to carry a baby to term, they will objectively be at an economic and social disadvantage compared to men. Maybe you personally wouldn't abort a baby in your mind, but many women would. The debate has never been about the conscious level of the fetus/baby. It's been about personal choice and bodily sovereignty
 
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