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It seems like all the socialists react this way.
I can't wait for the next election.
I think too many people have called the GOP nazis.
But I also think the picture is a harder statement.
Republicans showing their true colors and true intent
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I think too many people have called the GOP nazis.
But I also think the picture is a harder statement.
Bfgrn
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Does it fit YOUR idea of a democracy?
Does it fit YOUR idea of following the Constitution?
Is the ANYTHING Republicans can do that will draw your ire?
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There is a huge difference between the Reps drawing our 'ire' and comparing them to Nazi's.
But your far too simple minded to understand that aren't you?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Thank you for admitting who and what you are Dixie.
No problem, I have never hidden the fact that I am an Anti-Socialist who loves Freedom and Democracy and hates traitorous communist socialist scum... but thanks for acknowledging you understand who I am.
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Oh please, spare me the false indignation. You are not defending your posting, you are trying to attack me for questioning.
And since I do not know the details of the bill, I cannot say whether it fits either.
And yes, the republicans have drawn my ire numerous times. But when they do, I attack the action that drew my ire. I do not try and cause some knee-jerk, emotional reaction. Your use of the swastika is nothing short of disgusting. Do you think the GOP would try and militarily take over the world? Do you think the GOP would press for the slaughter of 6 million people?
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What We Can't Afford?
Bfgrn
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I've been around since Truman was in the White House. In all my years I have never seen a party so far from what our founder's intended. The Republican party has been hijacked by authoritarians. It is not only my opinion, it is the opinion of Goldwater Republicans like Victor Gold and John Dean. It's ironic Dixie mention Marxist and Socialists. They joined the Republican party.
Irving Kristol (January 22, 1920 – September 18, 2009) was an American columnist, journalist, and writer who was dubbed the "godfather of neoconservatism".
Kristol was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of non-observant Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. He received his B.A. from the City College of New York in 1940, where he majored in history and was part of a small but vocal Trotskyist group who eventually became the New York Intellectuals.
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Victor Gold, former speechwriter for George Herbert Walker Bush is a Goldwater conservative...his book explains how the GOP was hijacked away from conservatives by far right theocrats and far left neocons...starting in 1980...
Book Review:
Invasion of the Party Snatchers
By Victor Gold
After four decades as a Republican insider, Victor Gold reveals how the holy-rollers and the Neo-Cons have destroyed the GOP. Now he's fighting to get his party back.
As a man who served as press aide to Barry Goldwater and speechwriter and senior advisor to George H. W. Bush (in addition to co-authoring his autobiography), Victor Gold is absolutely furious that the Neo-Cons and their strange bedfellows, the Evangelical Right, have stolen his party from him. Now he is bringing the fight to them.
Invasion of the Party Snatchers is a blistering critique not only of the Bush-Cheney administration but also of the Republican Congress. Gold is ready to tell all about the war being waged for the soul of the GOP, including the elder Bush's opinion of his sons work domestically and abroad, the significance of the newly elected Congress, and how Goldwater would have reacted to it all. Gold reveals, among other explosive disclosures, how George W. has been manipulated by his vice president and secretary of defense to become, in Lenin's famous phrase, a "useful idiot" for Neo-Conservative warmongers and Theo-Conservative religious fanatics.
Although there have been other books by dissident Republicans attacking the Bush-Cheney administrations betrayal of conservative principles, none have been by an insider whose political credentials include inner-circle status with Barry Goldwater and George H. W. Bush.
Review:
"Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is 'a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay.' Gold looks to Goldwater, 'a straight-talking, freethinking maverick,' as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen.
He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of 'a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.' The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, 'two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth.' In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum.
He also has choice words for 'the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric,' the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and 'sideshow' legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort." Publishers Weekly (Starred Review) (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)
Synopsis:
The last real Goldwater conservative in America attacks the current state of his movement and his party.
Powell's Books - Invasion of the Party Snatchers: How the Holy-Rollers and Neo-Cons Destroyed the GOP by Victor Gold
Bfgrn
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Then you should hate the Republican party, because the Marxists and Trotskyists joined the GOP.
Billy the Great Khan
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So, Bfgrn, care to answer my question? How does controlling regulation the government differ from regulating private enterprise?
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how exactly does this bill violate the state or federal constitution? from what i've read, it does not. further, comparing this to nazism is pure ignorance and shows a profound lack of critical thinking. the people in office putting forth the bill were duly elected. the bill does not violate any rights.
my hunch is, bsgrn will not deliniate what specific rights are being violated or what specific sections of the the state or federal constitution is being violated.
my hunch is, bsgrn will not deliniate what specific rights are being violated or what specific sections of the the state or federal constitution is being violated.
Billy the Great Khan
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Way to steal my thunder.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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LMFAOoo... Yeah, I hear conservatives yammering "to each according to need" all the fucking time! We're all just a bunch of SOCIALIST MARXISTS! OMGLMFAOOoooo.... I can't wait for you fuckwits to trot that one out! Too funny!
Bfgrn
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We can't change the past, we can only learn from it. Republicans have clearly exhibited their belief in authoritarian rule and trashing democratic procedures and governance. Their Constitutional rhetoric is just a weapon against the living, by using the words of the dead.
WHAT will they have to do to draw your ire freak?
Bfgrn
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Are the neoconservatives in the Democratic party or the GOP?
Irving Kristol (January 22, 1920 – September 18, 2009) was an American columnist, journalist, and writer who was dubbed the "godfather of neoconservatism".
Kristol was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of non-observant Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. He received his B.A. from the City College of New York in 1940, where he majored in history and was part of a small but vocal Trotskyist group who eventually became the New York Intellectuals.
Is David Horowitz a Democrat?
David Joel Horowitz (born January 10, 1939) is an American conservative writer and policy advocate. Horowitz was a member of the New Left in the late 1960s before moving to the right in the 1970s.
He is a founder and the president of the David Horowitz Freedom Center, edits the conservative FrontPage Magazine, and writes for Christopher Ruddy's conservative website NewsMax. Horowitz founded the right-leaning activist group Students for Academic Freedom.
International Socialist Review, July-August 1967
David Horowitz
The Case for a Neo-Marxist Theory
From International Socialist Review, Vol.28 No.4, July-August 1967, pp.26-28.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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How come YOU haven't learned from the past, idiot? Republicans have been implementing the laws they promised to enact when they were running last election. Democrats are the ones subverting democracy by leaving the fucking state and refusing to participate in the democratic process! "Authoritarian Rule" was Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, ramming a multi-trillion-dollar health care reform down our throats against the overwhelming will of the American public, and without even reading the damn thing! You really got a lot of fucking nerve to make this false assertion... but I don't think it's because you are 'bold and courageous' but rather, because you are ignorant and dumb. You really do need to try and read or comprehend something other than the HuffPo or Daily Kos.
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Bfgrn
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My hunch is you were born without any ethics, morals or honesty...you people on the right are now hard wired for pure partisanship. It is the culmination of the Limbaugh, Fox, right wing 24/7 propaganda that EVERY problem in America is caused by liberals, and EVERY solution in America can only come from conservatives. It allows you the self righteousness to let ANY means justify YOUR ends. Nazi is the right word.
PLEASE SHOW ME where in the Constitution gives the Governor of any state, or any single person the power to: declare “financial emergency” in towns or school districts and appoint someone to fire local elected officials, break contracts, seize and sell assets, and eliminate services Yurt?
Under the law whole cities or school districts could be eliminated without any public participation or oversight, and amendments designed to provide minimal safeguards and public involvement were voted down. ref
Emergency Manager bill ‘raises serious constitutional concerns’
Legislation to allow a state-appointed Emergency Manager to replace local officials and terminate contracts is an opportunistic Republican power grab aimed at crushing workers rights and disenfranchising minority communities, Rep. John Conyers (D-Detroit) said yesterday.
The takeover provision of the legislation – allowing the dissolution of locally elected bodies — implicitly targets minority communities that are disproportionately impacted by the economic downturn, without providing meaningful support for improved economic opportunity.
Worse yet, this bill raises serious constitutional concerns. Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution explicitly prohibits any State from impairing a contract, which is exactly what this legislation does. As the Supreme Court has held in Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell (1934), the sanctity of contracts cannot be impaired by a state law “which renders them invalid, or releases or extinguishes them . . . . Not only are existing laws read into contracts in order to fix obligations as between the parties, but the reservation of essential attributes of sovereign power is also read into contracts as a postulate of the legal order.”
Further, the bill empowers this financial czar with the Governor’s approval to force a municipality into bankruptcy, a power that will surely be used to extract further concessions from hardworking public sector workers. And, by making the risk of bankruptcy a reality, the bill will make it more not less expensive for municipalities to obtain financing given this risk, which will make the financial circumstances of municipalities even worse.
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as i predicted, bfgrn could not explain how this bill violates the state or federal constitution. nor could he cite anything unconstitutional about the process.
instead, he attacks with hateful comments smearing my ethos and then demanding i prove his claim. you made the claim, you back it up. that is how it works. you don't make a claim and then demand others show that you're correct.
you can't cite a single law that has or will be broken. breaking contracts is perfectly legal. you comparing breaking contracts or firing people to nazi's shows you are a supremely ignorant and hate filled far left wing fear monger. people break contacts everyday, people get fired everyday. your hypocrisy is plain as day, you argued that the government should REVOKE or BREAK wallstreet bonuses, even though they were contracted. you supported obama pushing out the head of GM. what you cite has NOTHING to do with this bill. go look up bankruptcy laws and get an education, the government breaks up contracts everyday. you're misconstruing the law.
you're intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt.
instead, he attacks with hateful comments smearing my ethos and then demanding i prove his claim. you made the claim, you back it up. that is how it works. you don't make a claim and then demand others show that you're correct.
you can't cite a single law that has or will be broken. breaking contracts is perfectly legal. you comparing breaking contracts or firing people to nazi's shows you are a supremely ignorant and hate filled far left wing fear monger. people break contacts everyday, people get fired everyday. your hypocrisy is plain as day, you argued that the government should REVOKE or BREAK wallstreet bonuses, even though they were contracted. you supported obama pushing out the head of GM. what you cite has NOTHING to do with this bill. go look up bankruptcy laws and get an education, the government breaks up contracts everyday. you're misconstruing the law.
you're intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt.
SmarterthanYou
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this is almost hilarious, considering it comes from someone who compared Libertarians to Hitler and Goebbels.
