Republicans don't love or trust America anymore

agreed, about the trumpers that is. with the caveat that I'd put that on about 95% of them. the 5% that I know totally admitted that trump was wrong about due process on red flag laws and banning bump stocks.

I'd say the same percentage exists with the left base...........

A man like that is dangerous and is not the one to spearhead the new order of things. He is very dangerous, and his following makes him more dangerous. A madman inspires a maniacal following like them. Look at history.

The person to push us into the new order cannot be a megalomaniac, cant be in it for himself, cant believe he is above the law. The person will have to be humble and admit to flaws, and the movement MUST be about the movement not the PERSON. These people care only about Trump, not anything else. They will believe and accept ANYTHING he tells them to believe.

He got Hershel Walker and Dr. OZ nominated for senate.
 
Let me correct you on something right away. It is not fear we have,.....it is hatred. Hatred for what has been done to our beloved nation and institutions.

You don’t love them


You just hate America because you as stupid as a human comes


Or you are a Russo bot hole

Either way you are fucked
 
A man like that is dangerous and is not the one to spearhead the new order of things. He is very dangerous, and his following makes him more dangerous. A madman inspires a maniacal following like them. Look at history.

during the 2020 campaign I had a lot of lefties tell me that I was insane for voting Libertarian instead of doing everything possible to get trump out of office. they all said that the stakes were too high. YOU were of like mind. you chose to stay with the side of evil instead of fighting all of it.
 
We felt this way long before Trump ever got involved in politics. Decades before actually. I would explain it to you but it would be a fruitless waste of time. You wouldnt or couldnt possibly understand.

Yes I know you evil racist fucks have


It’s why you loved ronny rayguns when he said government was the problem


He started all of this hate America talk

He race baited and told you that the would “make America great again”


Dog whistle for “make white people king again”


You lapped it up
 
during the 2020 campaign I had a lot of lefties tell me that I was insane for voting Libertarian instead of doing everything possible to get trump out of office. they all said that the stakes were too high. YOU were of like mind. you chose to stay with the side of evil instead of fighting all of it.

Yes, because I did not want an insane fascist associated with the anti-establishment crowd for the next 50 years. He was not the one. He set anti-establishment back decades.
 
during the 2020 campaign I had a lot of lefties tell me that I was insane for voting Libertarian instead of doing everything possible to get trump out of office. they all said that the stakes were too high. YOU were of like mind. you chose to stay with the side of evil instead of fighting all of it.

I do not believe the new order you want, and the new order I want are exactly the same thing, but I think we both agree its certainty not the one that would be created by Trump and his followers.
 
You are a bit younger so you never got to experience what we experienced. It is harder for you to understand never having actually lived it. Heres the thing,.......Most of us who feel the way we do are at least in our 50's , like myself. At that age there really is nothing the LW or socialists can do to us,....we are quite set. Considering those facts,.....the frustrating part is we are not fighting for ourselves, like I said,...we are set. We are actually fighting for YOU! We fight for the younger people who never got to live the life we lived. Who never had the chance. We dont have to do this, believe you me,... but we choose to,....we do it because we actually care. We dont want American exceptionalism and prosperity to end with us,.....we want you to get your slice too and pay it forward. This is how it has always been done. A better life then those before you. Not worse like it is now. Just the truth......




So you thrust your tongue up corporate Americas ass?


They did this to you idiot


Not the government

Republican deregulation has done this to the current generation you fucking idiot



Not government
 
So you thrust your tongue up corporate Americas ass?


They did this to you idiot


Not the government

Republican deregulation has done this to the current generation you fucking idiot



Not government

you're the one licking pfizers asshole on covid lies.

:truestory:
 
Yes when Republican run things you dumbbfuck



And you lap their lies up

and now dems are proud to be the most corporate and sold out.

you extolled this virtue the other day.

you were saying the proper opinion should be how people are stupid and the goal should be to take their money and shorten their lives.
 
and now dems are proud to be the most corporate and sold out.

you extolled this virtue the other day.

you were saying the proper opinion should be how people are stupid and the goal should be to take their money and shorten their lives.

Just like phony tony fauci did. Not only did he get rich with a bogus stab he has created a whole generation of kids who will have emotional and intellectual deficits.
 
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Like almost everyone else you want to pick out all the worst negative aspects of American life and portray them as if it were the majority when we all KNOW it wasnt/isnt. How about being useful and talking about the positive majority while not forgetting about the negative but instead seek to improve it. Cant throw the baby out with the bath water. Its like a bad employer who will bring up every little mistake an employee makes but never mention the positive things the employee does which outweigh the bad at 100 to 1. It is foolish and reckless.



Take your own advice
 
Yes, because I did not want an insane fascist associated with the anti-establishment crowd for the next 50 years. He was not the one. He set anti-establishment back decades.

So you're part of the establishment and want to retain power for as long as possible and will do whatever is necessary to achieve that goal? Sounds about right and exactly show the left behaves.
 
A man like that is dangerous and is not the one to spearhead the new order of things. He is very dangerous, and his following makes him more dangerous. A madman inspires a maniacal following like them. Look at history.

The person to push us into the new order cannot be a megalomaniac, cant be in it for himself, cant believe he is above the law. The person will have to be humble and admit to flaws, and the movement MUST be about the movement not the PERSON. These people care only about Trump, not anything else. They will believe and accept ANYTHING he tells them to believe.

He got Hershel Walker and Dr. OZ nominated for senate.

Lmao I can't for the answer to this:

Who is the man to "...spearhead the new order of things"? Biden?

The only thing missing for you buddy is the word, "world"
 
Yes, I understand how you have felt for a long time, I share the dislike of the establishment and how it works, but due to hatred you illrationationally hitched yourself to a horse that used your hatred but did nothing to fix the problem he simply used it for power and self aggrandizement.

Change in the wrong direction, it not helpful change.




I want the establishment shaken up, and I would love to see someone unlike Biden, but I prefer the old wrong direction over Trumps wrong direction.

See you have devolved into trashing the very people who are saving us to please a racist
 
So you're part of the establishment and want to retain power for as long as possible and will do whatever is necessary to achieve that goal? Sounds about right and exactly show the left behaves.

No, I am very much anti-establishment and I think we have been moving forward for decades, but I want it to happen faster. I just don't want it hijacked by a fascist cult of personality.

We have more freedom now than in the 1980's, culturally we are more free to be outside the norm. People can have professional jobs if they have tattoos or are openly gay or be black... this if progress. I dont chose to have a tattoo but I cant deny that freedom is progressing and politics is not a small part of that.

I want most of the rules broken down. I want a huge amount more of personal freedom. Personal freedom requires rule of law, not rule of man. It requires that the guy with the biggest gun not be the one who sets the rules, it requires that the most wealthy not be the ones who set the rules. It requires better education for children and enforcement of some of the laws, so it requires good government. People like trump want to get rid of any outliers or unusual people. (He would not initially hire John Bolton because his moustache was too out of the norm.) He demands conformity. he tends toward fascism.

Anyone who tends toward fascism should not be the hero of anti-establishment, or we are in huge trouble. We would be moving from slightly fascist to fully fascist and that is not the part of the establishment I have been fighting my entire life.
 
They won the primaries.... Do you honestly Believe DR. OZ will win? If he did, do you honestly believe he (being from and living in NJ) would represent the interests of the people of Pennsylvania?

Do you honestly believe that self professed violently mentally ill Hershel Walker was the best choice Republicans could come up with in GA?

It is


They are a violent racist cult


These are not people you are talking with


They are foreign programs designed to foment racist hate
 
Lmao I can't for the answer to this:

Who is the man to "...spearhead the new order of things"? Biden?

The only thing missing for you buddy is the word, "world"

Biden is absolutely NOT that man, but going back to the establishment is better than heading toward a fascist establishment.

Do you think Hershel Walker, Dr. OZ, MTG, SARAH PALIN and DJT are the ones to lead us into a new order? NO WAY

This group set back anti-establishment decades.
 
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