Republicans don't love or trust America anymore

Stone said:
You are a bit younger so you never got to experience what we experienced. It is harder for you to understand never having actually lived it. Heres the thing,.......Most of us who feel the way we do are at least in our 50's , like myself. At that age there really is nothing the LW or socialists can do to us,....we are quite set. Considering those facts,.....the frustrating part is we are not fighting for ourselves, like I said,...we are set. We are actually fighting for YOU! We fight for the younger people who never got to live the life we lived. Who never had the chance. We dont have to do this, believe you me,... but we choose to,....we do it because we actually care. We dont want American exceptionalism and prosperity to end with us,.....we want you to get your slice too and pay it forward. This is how it has always been done. A better life then those before you. Not worse like it is now. Just the truth......
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In the history of the world nobody gets to live the life their parents lived. Its has not always been "better" for each generation, it changes and those changes bring about good and bad things. YOu are like the old man screaming for kids to get off his lawn, or the old lady upset because girls are showing their knees at the beach. Accept change, and work to make it good change for change is inevitable.

I think you suffer from what I call "Happy Days Syndrome", you grew up watching Happy Days or Father Knows Best and thought that was a reflection on what the 1950's were like for everyone, IT WAS NOT.
 
Yakuda said:
Trump was thrown off social media as is anyone who doesn't toe the leftist line. I know I know you people prefer calling it "misinformation". LOL arbitrarily changing the definition of words is a leftist hobby. It's a bad argument.

Trump didn't punish anything, the democracy you people claim to love so much worked and your leftist shit is going to come back to haunt you. I hate to admit it but I will relish when your bullshit gets shoved down your own throats. It wi be a great day and it is coming. You people think you can say and do whatever you like and people.just have to take it. We see how you people behave when you don't get your own way, BLM,, Janes revenge, terrorizing SC justices you don't like. You know what gets me most of all is the fucking amount of patriotic play acting you people engage in. Decent people are waking up. Get ready, ife is going to change for you people.
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I can say whatever I like, and do whatever I like as long as its legal, that's what AMERICA is all about. Only FASCISTS believe otherwise.

I do not agree with terrorizing SC Judges or terrorizing FBI agents, but the difference is I do not subscribe the behavior of insane Trumppers who terrorize the FBI to all Trumppers.

You are not "winning", you are losing. Just look what has happened, you turned what should have been a HUGE RED wave this November to a very good possibility the DEMOCRATS WILL KEEP THE SENATE. You put your faith in a silly REALITY TELEVISION SHOW sharlitan and nominated Dr. Oz and Hershel Walker for Senate.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
whataboutism........
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No I am pointing out that you are complaining about something and pretending its a liberal problem when in fact is a problem for Trumppers as well. Its the same subject and you are complaining about the other side while supporting the guy who is the king of doing what you complain about.. a better word is HYPOCRISY.
 
Jarod said:
I can say whatever I like, and do whatever I like as long as its legal, that's what AMERICA is all about. Only FASCISTS believe otherwise.

I do not agree with terrorizing SC Judges or terrorizing FBI agents, but the difference is I do not subscribe the behavior of insane Trumppers who terrorize the FBI to all Trumppers.

You are not "winning", you are losing. Just look what has happened, you turned what should have been a HUGE RED wave this November to a very good possibility the DEMOCRATS WILL KEEP THE SENATE. You put your faith in a silly REALITY TELEVISION SHOW sharlitan and nominated Dr. Oz and Hershel Walker for Senate.
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Unless you say something some dimwit has decided is "misinformation".

What we know is trump backed candidates won. It's amazing how unaware you people are. I honestly know 3 years that are more self aware than fun grown leftists. Amazing
 
Jarod said:
No I am pointing out that you are complaining about something and pretending its a liberal problem when in fact is a problem for Trumppers as well. Its the same subject and you are complaining about the other side while supporting the guy who is the king of doing what you complain about.. a better word is HYPOCRISY.
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HYPOCRISY, thou art. I am pointing out that you are complaining about something and pretending it's a conservative problem when it is, in fact, a problem on both sides.........but like a leftist, you prefer to point fingers at the 'right' and ignore your own sides faults until it's pointed out to you, like I do in almost all threads
 
Yakuda said:
Sure but I haven't heard a sensible argument to change it. Who was it that said never pull down a fence unless you know why it was out up in the first place.

Please don't tell me about the popular vote. The founders were well aware of the "democratically" based popular vote but they decided against it. Give me a reason we should change it now. I know the reason, it's an obstacle to leftist control of the government, the exact thing the founders wanted to prevent. But I'd love to hear your argument.
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Ok, so if you dont think the opposing side of an argument is sensible, you can oppose dissent and call it unamerican, but if you believe its sensible dissent is very American?

You guys think your shit dont stink. If anyone disagrees with you its UNAMERICAN and not allowing DISSENT, but if you agree with something its AMERICAN and opposing it is not ok?


(P.S. I do not agree with getting rid of the electoral college at this point, but I think its ok for others to thing we should.)

Can you not see your hypocrissy? You complain that OTHERS do not allow dissent, then call it unAmerican and oppose dissent if others propose changing the EC.
 
Yakuda said:
Yes you're right and I agree 100% and he and others are punished for their ideology. Being privately owned doesn't change what's happening. People sentenced for the Jan 6 trespassing are being punished.
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Ok, but many, maybe not you, are arguing that Twitter should not be allowed to do that and want the government to step in a police the situation.
 
Stone said:
Sometimes YES,...always? NO.
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Ok its hard to argue with that, iN this situation I believe its fear turned inside out.

You guys made a huge mistake by hanging the anti-establishment movement on the extremely flawed Trump.

It set back the anti-establishment movement (which I am a part of) WAY back. We had to revert to the ultimate establishment guy Biden just to regain our footing and start over.


Anti-Establishment is good, but dangerous. You have to remember you are actually creating a new establishment and I do not want an Establishment created by an authoritarian dictator wannabe who tries to use fascist tactics.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
HYPOCRISY, thou art. I am pointing out that you are complaining about something and pretending it's a conservative problem when it is, in fact, a problem on both sides.........but like a leftist, you prefer to point fingers at the 'right' and ignore your own sides faults until it's pointed out to you, like I do in almost all threads
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No, I am telling you it is a PROBLEM on BOTH SIDES. Can you read?
 
BartenderElite said:
They don't trust our institutions, our elections, the media or our system. They see a conspiracy or "deep state" operative around every corner. They no longer see this country as working for their interests or protecting them.

They see the state as the enemy.

There are a lot of reasons for this. For some, it goes back to Ruby Ridge & Waco. For others, it's just that their guy - who they thought was unbeatable - lost. Subconsciously, I think many understand that changing demographics will make it harder to win elections without moderating or compromising. Consciously, they refer some of that to "replacement theory."

It's not sustainable for a country to have at least a third and as many as half of its citizens feel this way. So, we have to figure it out, and fix it. It's too easy to just dismiss these concerns and call them nutters, but the fear they have is real.
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and the fears are valid.

elites think they get to sell the nation to china and sell the people down the toilet.

don't worry, we'll stop you through the political process.

we have the hearts and minds of the people.

you have anachronistic and corrput institutions who lie all day and call it service.
 
Yakuda said:
Unless you say something some dimwit has decided is "misinformation".

What we know is trump backed candidates won. It's amazing how unaware you people are. I honestly know 3 years that are more self aware than fun grown leftists. Amazing
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They won the primaries.... Do you honestly Believe DR. OZ will win? If he did, do you honestly believe he (being from and living in NJ) would represent the interests of the people of Pennsylvania?

Do you honestly believe that self professed violently mentally ill Hershel Walker was the best choice Republicans could come up with in GA?
 
Jarod said:
Ok, so if you dont think the opposing side of an argument is sensible, you can oppose dissent and call it unamerican, but if you believe its sensible dissent is very American?

You guys think your shit dont stink. If anyone disagrees with you its UNAMERICAN and not allowing DISSENT, but if you agree with something its AMERICAN and opposing it is not ok?


(P.S. I do not agree with getting rid of the electoral college at this point, but I think its ok for others to thing we should.)

Can you not see your hypocrissy? You complain that OTHERS do not allow dissent, then call it unAmerican and oppose dissent if others propose changing the EC.
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Don't let your hysteria get the best of you buddy. You're coming unhinged. If you want to abolish the electoral college, great, but I'd suggest a better argument than, it should be the popular vote. On its face that makes no sense as I pointed out. The founders could very well have set it up to be by popular vote but they didn't. And for a very good reason, tyranny of the majority.

Look you can wave your arms and call me unamerican and hypocritical and say my shit don't stink but that doesn't change the fact that the popular vote was rejected by the founders and your only argument thus far is, "it should be popular vote". The other FACT that remains is you people hate it because it's an obstacle to you. Nothing more nothing less. So keep wailing or give a better argument. You can disagree all you like but holding your breath til you turn blue isn't convincing.
 
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