Republiacn Senators ask Obama to violate the Constitution!

That is, IF they keep their word. The GOP has a recent history of folding like a cheap suit in "uncomfortable" situations. And who cares how you dems are going to "feel"? The GOP will likely gain a better reputation among the base if they hold the line this time.

If the Senate caves that will be the last slap in the face to the base and McCunntell can kiss his job good bye. It will also nominate Trump

Of course I would put it past the pricks to hold out until after the election and then confirm end of November.

The conservative base is tired of being screwed over.

Name one democrat nominated Justice that has ruled against the wishes of the left wing base on a BIG issue? I can't think of one in recent memory.

But the right gets screwed. They get Souter, Kennedy, Oconnor and now it appears Roberts.

Does any lefty on this board think Ginsberg, Soromajor and Kagal will fuck them on a ruling? Nope
 
That is, IF they keep their word. The GOP has a recent history of folding like a cheap suit in "uncomfortable" situations. And who cares how you dems are going to "feel"? The GOP will likely gain a better reputation among the base if they hold the line this time.
That may work in an off-year election cycle but there's not enough of the GOP base to make that viable during a POTUS election cycle.

I promise you, if come next fall, if the polls show clearly that the GOP candidate has a high probability of losing the Senate would confirm a moderate and outstanding legal scholar like Vri Vrisanayan rather than risk Scalia being replaced by Elizabeth Warren.
 
That may work in an off-year election cycle but there's not enough of the GOP base to make that viable during a POTUS election cycle.

I promise you, if come next fall, if the polls show clearly that the GOP candidate has a high probability of losing the Senate would confirm a moderate and outstanding legal scholar like Vri Vrisanayan rather than risk Scalia being replaced by Elizabeth Warren.

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Sen. Chuck Schumer said in July 2007 that no George W. Bush nominee to the Supreme Court should be approved, except in extraordinary circumstances, 19 months before a new president was set to be inaugurated.

"We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court, except in extraordinary circumstances," Schumer, a New York Democrat, said in prepared remarks to the American Constitution Society, a liberal legal organization.

Schumer cited ideological reasons for the delay.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sc...rticle/2583283
 
Article II Section 2.

The President shall nominate Judges of the supreme Court.


It does not say that the president should, can or might nominate Judges of the Supreme Court... it says SHALL..


Now you have the Republican leader of the Senate calling for Obama to chose not to appoint a judge. You have Republican canididates, including strict constructionists, and self described defenders of "original intent" saying that the President should NOT appoint a judge.


I thought they claimed to be the ones demanding the Constitution be followed.... Shows how full of SHIT they are.

lol....
 
Nothing funnier than a dumb fuck like you pretending to sound smart. Thanks for the laughs bio boy
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If the Senate caves that will be the last slap in the face to the base and McCunntell can kiss his job good bye.

Here's the funny thing about that. Check out these quotes:

The President is presumably elected by the people to carry out a program and altering the ideological directions of the Supreme Court would seem to be a perfectly legitimate part of a Presidential platform. To that end, the Constitution gives him the power to nominate... The proper role of the Senate is to advise and consent to the particular nomination..."

As this altogether too brief historical review has demonstrated, the Senate has in its past, virtually without exception, based its objections to nominees for the Supreme Court on party or philosophical considerations. Most of the time, however, Senators sought to hide their political objections beneath a veil of charges about fitness, ethics and other professional qualifications. In recent years, Senators have accepted, with a few exceptions, the notion that the advice and consent responsibility of the Senate should mean an inquiry into qualifications and not politics or ideology.

Even though the Senate has at various times made purely political decisions in its consideration of Supreme Court nominees, certainly it could not be successfully argued that this is an acceptable practice. After all, if political matters were relevant to senatorial consideration it might be suggested that a constitutional amendment be introduced giving to the Senate rather than the President the right to nominate Supreme Court Justices..."

In summary, the inconsistent and sometimes unfair behavior of the Senate in the past and in the recent examples which follow do not lead one to be overly optimistic about its prospects for rending equitable judgments about Supreme Court nominees in the future.

In conclusion, these criteria for Senate judgment of nominees to the Supreme Court are recommended for future considerations. It will always be difficult to obtain a fair and impartial judgment from such an inevitably political body as the United States Senate. However, it is suggested that the true measure of a statesman may well be the ability to rise above the partisan political considerations to objectively pass upon another aspiring human being. While the author retains no great optimism for the future usage, these guidelines are now, nevertheless, left behind, a fitting epilogue to a most unique and unforgettable era in the history of the Supreme Court.

They are all from "A New Senate Standard of Excellence," a nice little piece that condemns partisanship when dealing with the nomination of a Supreme Court Justice.

And the author? Mitch McConnell.
 
I think the real problem here is that both sides of the argument don't bother to stop and think about what being a Supreme Court Justice should mean - even the Justices don't (Justice Scalia certainly didn't, and said so, saying that they can "favor religion over non-religion").

The role of a Supreme Court Justice is to be objective and steadfast in interpretation of the Constitution and how legislation in the United States measures up to Constitutional standards and requirements. In fact, the role of any judge is to be objective and impartial.

Taking the same-sex marriage case as an example, the approach from both sides was, I believe, simply wrong.

It was not a question of, "Gays should be allowed to marry" v "Gays should not be allowed to marry". It was a question of equality as guaranteed by Fourteenth Amendment.

The Constitutional guarantee of equality, through the 14th Amendment, is fairly clear, if read objectively: Laws must be leveled equally and not favor one group over another. That's really the end of the argument. If two consenting adults wish to marry, then by the 14th Amendment, they have that right, because marriage is a civil ceremony dictated by law that does not require any religious involvement at all.

So it should have been quite simple: "The 14th Amendment says equal protection under the law. We're done here. LUNCH!"

And that, friends, is the actual role of a Supreme Court Justice - to rule objectively based upon the Constitution.

It was the insertion of religious beliefs that muddied the waters and made the entire situation much more harrowing than it should have been. But that is the nature of our Justices today. None of them interpret objectively based strictly on the Constitution.

That's where the problem lies.
That was the decision, but the decision still had to be argued thru by the justices
and it wasn't cut and dried the 14th would be applied .

I think the chaos of having 1/2 the states allowing gay marriage and 1/2 not ( or very close approximated) demanded a result
other then letting the states organically evolve to the position of the majority of the country.
In other words the timing coincided with the ability to use the 14th as the deciding mechanism.

Events are dynamic and also influence decisions -not just pure jurisprudence applications of Constitutional remedies/stops.
 
Bio Boy? Sounds like a Marvel Super Hero character from a Swamp Thing episode. I kinda like it. :)

Faster than a speeding enzyme.

More powerful than a mitochondria.

Able to leap synapses at an action potential.

He's an allele! He's a genome! He's the missing link!

It's Bio Boy! :)

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Article II Section 2.

The President shall nominate Judges of the supreme Court.


It does not say that the president should, can or might nominate Judges of the Supreme Court... it says SHALL..


Now you have the Republican leader of the Senate calling for Obama to chose not to appoint a judge. You have Republican canididates, including strict constructionists, and self described defenders of "original intent" saying that the President should NOT appoint a judge.


I thought they claimed to be the ones demanding the Constitution be followed.... Shows how full of SHIT they are.

obama has the right to nominate whoever he wants.

the senate has the right to debate/confirm/or reject his nomination.

He nominates along with the advice and consent of the senate.

Both sides can play out their roles.
 
Republicans are searching the Constitution for the clause that says when you're losing', you get to kick the ball into the woods. #Scalia - Tea Pain tweet



 
obama has the right to nominate whoever he wants.

the senate has the right to debate/confirm/or reject his nomination.

He nominates along with the advice and consent of the senate.

Both sides can play out their roles.

I get the idea the liberals are miffed because the constitution doesn't set a timeline on when a nominee should be elevated to the court by congress.

Which is a political body that is prone to playing politics lol. Either side would try and drag it into next year; it just happens republicans are in control now.

As an aside, I think too much is being made of this. In a few months [maybe even weeks, given the attention span of the electorate and punditry] the SCOTUS vacancy will be just one of many issues on voters minds.
 
I get the idea the liberals are miffed because the constitution doesn't set a timeline on when a nominee should be elevated to the court by congress.

Which is a political body that is prone to playing politics lol. Either side would try and drag it into next year; it just happens republicans are in control now.

As an aside, I think too much is being made of this. In a few months [maybe even weeks, given the attention span of the electorate and punditry] the SCOTUS vacancy will be just one of many issues on voters minds.
Not at all. I am an unapologetic social liberal and I think it would be real sick if Ginsburg thumps tonight. I mean...I don't mean Her Honor no disrespect but...well...you know? That would make things even more interesting.
 
The proper role of the Senate is to advise and consent to the particular nomination.
and if they do not approve of the selection they advise him to find someone else and deny the consent......its not like it hasn't happened a dozen times already in the history of our country......
 
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