Reported 2 days ago Fewer Births Than Deaths Among Whites in Majority of U.S. State

PoliTalker said:
Hello Jack,



Yes.
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So, your statement "Besides, the thought of all kinds of different people coexisting on an equal basis, each contributing to society in their own way... It's kind of beautiful, you know?" may not always be true.

How about Iraq? Maybe better with a Kurdistan, Sunnistan, and Shiastan?
 
Timshel said:
It was sarcasm. There is no proof that white hegemony will protect against progressives. Sanders is an idiot who brought us Trump.
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How did Bernie give us Trump? Not trying to put words in your mouth but do you believe as others do he should have stepped aside and let Hillary run unchallenged?
 
Hello Jack,

Those failures can be attributed to allowing too much religious influence in government. We can avoid that.

Besides. If religions cannot coexist with one another there is a clear message that religions are false. Each of them clamoring to claim to be all-knowing is a very strong indication that none of them are.

Religions should be allowed, (for those who wish,) but I believe the future of humankind lies in simply having faith in humankind to overcome all difficulties.

No religion should be allowed to dominate a nation or dictate hateful policy.

Religions are nothing but unsupported speculation.

Science is in the process of presenting so much evidence of a different beginning for humankind that religions will eventually become passe.

We need to accept that, and let religion pass into the history books as something humans relied on before we had so many answers.

It is time to begin to move boldly beyond such limitations to our progress.
 
cawacko said:
How did Bernie give us Trump? Not trying to put words in your mouth but do you believe as others do he should have stepped aside and let Hillary run unchallenged?
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Are you living under a rock?

He was used by Russia to create division, his supporters whined about the process arming Donald and his protectionist policies led many of his supporters to switch their allegiance to Trump.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/5458...voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/
 
PoliTalker said:
One of the arguments we have seen in objection to simply allowing more legal immigration is that there is a fear that Latinos and Latinas will vote Democratic.

That is a very real possibility. History has shown a strong support for Democratic candidates within that demographic.

(And the problem with that is?)

OK, notwithstanding any traditional objections of one party platform over the other, I would like to politely suggest that if the Republican party wishes to remain relevant it is going to have to adopt policies which are more appealing to hard working lower income people such as these immigrants.

Many are already here, they are legal, and they are reaching voting age. The demographics of the nation are changing, and there is little which can be done to change that. And no justifiable reason to try.

If the Republican party wants to appeal to the changing face of America, the Republican party is going to have to change with the times.

It is absurd to try to cling to a moment in time.

What do you think? You can just jump up and yell: "OK! I like what we have right now! Just freeze everything right there and stop all this change!" (Not gonna happen...)

You guys can pretend you are eliminating nonexistent 'voter fraud' all you want but you are only fooling yourselves. You can gerrymander all the precincts you can get away with, make voting as difficult as possible so that only the rich can easily vote, purge all the Democratic names you can sort of justify from voter rolls, but that is only going to preserve your outsized (and slipping) grip on power for so long - then it is going to slip away from you.

Maybe it is time to really embrace the idea that this nation is founded on the principles of true equality.

I know. That's a big step for many of you.

But it is one you are going to have to face.

Sooner or later.

And besides. If you stop all this cruelty and let people be what they can be, people will be more well adjusted. They will become more productive. The GDP will rise higher than ever thought possible. And it will be easier to control the national debt. Remember that? You guys used to care about the debt. I remember when you did.

Nobody wants to turn the wealthy into paupers.

People just want to share in the prosperity.

And I think that is possible.

We can build a better future together.
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Grew up in NYC, many cultures and colors living side by side , wasn't until my early teens that we took trips by car and holy crap, segregate backwardness, couldn't imagine being brought up in that ignorant atmosphere
 
Timshel said:
Are you living under a rock?

He was used by Russia to create division, his supporters whined about the process arming Donald and his protectionist policies led many of his supporters to switch their allegiance to Trump.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/5458...voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/
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Well hell I wanted Rubio to win and if Trump and others hadn't run he would have. Should we not have party primaries and just have a select group decide who the candidates should be?


I'll repost Cypress' 2007 post regarding free trade. Is it a surprise so many liberals supported Bernie?


You think this was an accident, or somehow all unintentional?

This was exactly what the wall street republicans, and corporate-sponsored Dems had in mind when the passed NAFTA, WTO, and China MFN.

A downward pressure on labor costs and wages in the United States.

People like Cawacko, Damocles, and Stuperfreak actually bought into the nonsense that William F Buckley, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and Alan Greenspan were actually valiantly trying to improve the status, power, and wage potential of america's working middle class. Is it possible to be any more foolish that to believe scions of the conservative movement and america's rich investor were invested in improving the power and status of Joe and Jane working class american?


https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...t-2-3-million-U-S-jobs-report&highlight=china
 
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Timshel said:
Are you living under a rock?

He was used by Russia to create division, his supporters whined about the process arming Donald and his protectionist policies led many of his supporters to switch their allegiance to Trump.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/5458...voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/
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And the DNC was dumb enough to have superdelegates in their process without realizing how it alienated voters.
 
PoliTalker said:
One of the arguments we have seen in objection to simply allowing more legal immigration is that there is a fear that Latinos and Latinas will vote Democratic.

That is a very real possibility. History has shown a strong support for Democratic candidates within that demographic.

(And the problem with that is?)

OK, notwithstanding any traditional objections of one party platform over the other, I would like to politely suggest that if the Republican party wishes to remain relevant it is going to have to adopt policies which are more appealing to hard working lower income people such as these immigrants.

Many are already here, they are legal, and they are reaching voting age. The demographics of the nation are changing, and there is little which can be done to change that. And no justifiable reason to try.

If the Republican party wants to appeal to the changing face of America, the Republican party is going to have to change with the times.

It is absurd to try to cling to a moment in time.

What do you think? You can just jump up and yell: "OK! I like what we have right now! Just freeze everything right there and stop all this change!" (Not gonna happen...)

You guys can pretend you are eliminating nonexistent 'voter fraud' all you want but you are only fooling yourselves. You can gerrymander all the precincts you can get away with, make voting as difficult as possible so that only the rich can easily vote, purge all the Democratic names you can sort of justify from voter rolls, but that is only going to preserve your outsized (and slipping) grip on power for so long - then it is going to slip away from you.

Maybe it is time to really embrace the idea that this nation is founded on the principles of true equality.

I know. That's a big step for many of you.

But it is one you are going to have to face.

Sooner or later.

And besides. If you stop all this cruelty and let people be what they can be, people will be more well adjusted. They will become more productive. The GDP will rise higher than ever thought possible. And it will be easier to control the national debt. Remember that? You guys used to care about the debt. I remember when you did.

Nobody wants to turn the wealthy into paupers.

People just want to share in the prosperity.

And I think that is possible.

We can build a better future together.
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Can you show me an example of the argument you claimed we have all heard? The only people I've ever heard say that were democrats making the claim of republicans. Can you cite a republican making the claim?
 
This lack of procreation is exactly why white christians are running around scared shitless and Rabid. Their strength is only in numbers once that's put aside they will cease to exist. It's not a plan or a plot it is evolution in it's purest form. The Darwin Theory of, "Use and Disuse!" The Caucasian christian genome has outlived it's usefulness.
 
Trump's one mistake was cutting funding to Planned Parenthood. There should be more Planned Parenthood centers in minority neighborhoods.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
Is it possible to be any more foolish that to believe scions of the conservative movement and america's rich investor were invested in improving the power and status of Joe and Jane working class american?
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Hard to imagine anything sillier. Talk about being duped. And now the same thing is happening with Trump. Lincoln was right. You can fool some of the people all of the time.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



Hard to imagine anything sillier. Talk about being duped. And now the same thing is happening with Trump. Lincoln was right. You can fool some of the people all of the time.
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That was Cypress' quote from 2007. He was talking about free trade and our trade agreements. Yet look at people today who would otherwise agree with his statement turning into pro free traders.
 
Hello tinfoil,

tinfoil said:
Can you show me an example of the argument you claimed we have all heard? The only people I've ever heard say that were democrats making the claim of republicans. Can you cite a republican making the claim?
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Not specifically.

But that doesn't mean it isn't correct.

And point of order, I did not claim we have all heard the argument. I said it was an argument which has been heard.
 
cawacko said:
That was Cypress' quote from 2007. He was talking about free trade and our trade agreements. Yet look at people today who would otherwise agree with his statement turning into pro free traders.
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From 2007?

11 years ago?

My. You are the shrewd one.
 
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