Repeal or replace?

[Freddy Figbottom]

The powers that be want to control healthcare to make sure people die more and that they make money.

in an actual market, eating right and not eating poison would come into play, and that would interfere with the Nazi mass murder plans.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Okay, so if someone has a hospital visit which costs $300k, they are supposed to pay that out of pocket? lol

I don't think you know much about health insurance or medical costs.

so you see how insurance with no apparet market forces inflates costs?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Nah. He's just scared. He has never experienced any other way. He doesn't know what it was like.

no.

he likes his healthcare stocks.

 

[Damocles]

No way to fix it now, it's already ruined.

Government subsidies will make any program cost ridiculously higher than it should.

 

[Diogenes]

he loves him some healthcare stocks.

"She", and I don't know that they own any "healthcare stocks".

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

"She", and I don't know that they own any "healthcare stocks".

do you feel healthcare stocks are a questionable construct of some kind?

 

[Diogenes]

Government subsidies will make any program cost ridiculously higher than it should.

Medicare is another example. Medicaid, too.

 

[Diogenes]

do you feel healthcare stocks are a questionable construct of some kind?

Silly question.

I've a lot to do today. My mail ballots have long since been dispatched of course, but now I need to hit a bunch of polling places in person today, so I don't really have time for nonsense.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Silly question.

I've a lot to do today. My mail ballots have long since been dispatched of course, but now I need to hit a bunch of polling places in person today, so I don't really have time for nonsense.

you don't believe in healthcare related securities.

isn't that cute.

 

[Life is Golden]

Government subsidies will make any program cost ridiculously higher than it should.

The costs were sky high and unaffordable before the subsidies. That's why people had to have insurance. No one can afford half a mil for a hospital stay.

 

[Life is Golden]

Medicare is another example. Medicaid, too.

Of course. The only reason providers are able to stay in business accepting the rates Medicare and Medicaid pays is because those paying full freight keep them afloat.

 

[Life is Golden]

Does any poster here have a viable solution?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Government subsidies will make any program cost ridiculously higher than it should.

but it's not the government subisidies ruining it.

it;s the corps to corps pass through using individuals as an excuse.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

a dramatization:

healthcare ceo's to other ceo's: use our healthcare plan for your dumb employees and we will just do a stock swap.

ceo's: ok. sounds good.

 

[Damocles]

The costs were sky high and unaffordable before the subsidies. That's why people had to have insurance. No one can afford half a mil for a hospital stay.

They, at least, tripled after the subsidies. They did not become more affordable. Like every other government program, leftists think that if the government pays more than you did by several hundred percent it's "free".

 

[Jake Starkey]

Does any poster here have a viable solution?

No.

 

[Diogenes]

 

[Diogenes]

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The battle over Obamacare subsidies that led to the government shutdown is shining a light on corruption in the insurance industry.

Health Insurance Companies Spend Big On CA Redistricting Fight

The battle over Obamacare subsidies that led to the government shutdown is shining a light on corruption in the insurance industry.

thefederalist.com

 

[Jake Starkey]

 

[Into the Night]

No, the mandate to buy coverage is gone.

Bullshit. Medicare is a required coverage.
I still pay for VA, Medicaid, and ObamaCare costs even though I don't use them.

I have group insurance, so it doesn’t affect me.

Yes it does.

The bigger issue is people misunderstand what health insurance is for. It’s not supposed to cover every office visit for a few dollars. It exists to keep you from going bankrupt if you end up with a hospital bill in the six- or seven-figure range.

You will find it's pretty useless for that! You had better read your policy again.

I have a high-deductible PPO. I pay the negotiated rate for routine care, and the most I can owe in a year is $3,000.

You had better read your policy again. There are always a lot exclusions.

That said, some small business owners have to buy their own insurance, and high premiums limit what they can afford. In that case, subsidies can make a real difference. The situation isn’t black and white, and there are no simplistic solutions.

TANSTAAFL. Subsidies aren't free,

The solution is black and white. Get government out of health insurance and stop meddling with healthcare itself.