Religion on the Left and Right

Return of Dune said:
I am having too much fun to be crying, so it must be you.

Did I say hate? Is hate the same as dislike to you?

The Teabagger's time is nearly over, and they have acomplished nothing except causing the first credit downgrade in the history of the nation.

Now there is something to be proud of.
Click to expand...

You're really delusional. Obama is the one who is losing. Democrats are losing everywhere, even in the 9th District, a district they held for 90 years. You are a very sick person. You and Obama need an intervention.
 
Return of Dune said:
So you admit you are closeminded. Thankyou.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
Click to expand...

Don't listen to those voices in your head. They are not your friend. Now dial 911 and tell the person on the other end that you are hearing voices and having thoughts of hurting yourself and need help immediately. I'm pulling for ya. We all are.
 
Alias said:
Don't listen to those voices in your head. They are not your friend. Now dial 911 and tell the person on the other end that you are hearing voices and having thoughts of hurting yourself and need help immediately. I'm pulling for ya. We all are.
Click to expand...

Since they clearly didn't help you, I don't think I will bother.
 
poet said:
I don't believe that life, and a soul begins at conception. A fetus is not a human being...it's a fetus. I believe that a fetus that is viable (able to live outside of the womb, on its' own) is a human being, and should be preserved and protected. Surfactant, the complex protein that provides for lung compliance and reduction of surface tension, which allows for the alveoli (air sacs) to remain open and productive, doesn't completely form until 35 weeks of gestation. Meaning, that fetuses delivered before 35 weeks have to undergo extraordinary measures to insure their survival, if at all.
I believe abortion should be the course of last resort. Birth control and condoms should be the course of first resort, along with education and counseling.
I believe in abortion as a means of saving the mother's life, or in the cases of rape. I think abortions should be done within the first trimester.
In any event, the decision is between the woman, her conscience, her family and her God, and no other man or woman. I believe a woman should have jurisdiction over her own body and its' contents. Duh.
Click to expand...

For the religious folks it's quite clear in the Bible.

King James Version

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Revelation 11:11
[ The Witnesses Resurrected ] Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

New International Version

Genesis 7:22
Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died.

Young’s Literal translation

Genesis 2:7
And Jehovah God formeth the man -- dust from the ground, and breatheth into his nostrils breath of life, and the man becometh a living creature.

New American Standard Bible

Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 7:22
of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died.

Job 7:7
“Remember that my life is but breath;

Job 33:4
“The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

While some say the Bible speaks figuratively usually such language is general. For example, "the breath of life" could be a figurative saying, however, it's unlikely it would be accompanied by specifically stating "breathed into his nostrils". Furthermore, when the Bible states, "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being" it specifies the difference between "a body" (a formed man or fetus) and actually "living" (man became a living being).

The fetus is formed but as you correctly point out it is unable to have breath in it's nostrils even if there was air available in the uterus, which there is not.
 
As I said Dixie, many outspoken "Christians" like the "moral majority" (its not moral or a majority) or the "Religous Right" (its not religous or right) or the "Christian Coalition" are on the right, but the liberal Christians often do not form clans that are identified by wearing religion on the sleeve, they are still liberal and I would venture to say the numbers are as large as the Conservative Christians or larger. Liberal religous people tend to not use religen in an effort to push political adgenda's.

The Catholic Church is very Anti-Abortion, yet the membership is overwhelming liberal. Many religous groups do not oppose Gay marriage, the Episcipal Church (the largest church in the USA) ordains gay' clergy and performs gay marriages. The Unity Church does the same, as well as the American Baptists and the Unitarian Universalists.

Cat got your toung Dixie?
 
apple0154 said:
For the religious folks it's quite clear in the Bible.

King James Version

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Revelation 11:11
[ The Witnesses Resurrected ] Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

New International Version

Genesis 7:22
Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died.

Young’s Literal translation

Genesis 2:7
And Jehovah God formeth the man -- dust from the ground, and breatheth into his nostrils breath of life, and the man becometh a living creature.

New American Standard Bible

Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 7:22
of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died.

Job 7:7
“Remember that my life is but breath;

Job 33:4
“The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

While some say the Bible speaks figuratively usually such language is general. For example, "the breath of life" could be a figurative saying, however, it's unlikely it would be accompanied by specifically stating "breathed into his nostrils". Furthermore, when the Bible states, "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being" it specifies the difference between "a body" (a formed man or fetus) and actually "living" (man became a living being).

The fetus is formed but as you correctly point out it is unable to have breath in it's nostrils even if there was air available in the uterus, which there is not.
Click to expand...

You are taking the CREATION of man and then applying that to reproduction. That's deception and twisting of scripture, something the left does, but not very well when someone knows the scriptures.

That's quite a deception you have there, but you forgot something....... The mother breathes and gives oxygen to the child. You also forgot this scripture.......Jeremiah 1:5 ""Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."

God says HE knows us even before HE FORMS US IN THE WOMB.

Your turn.
 
Alias said:
You are taking the CREATION of man and then applying that to reproduction. That's deception and twisting of scripture, something the left does, but not very well when someone knows the scriptures. That's quite a deception you have there, but you forgot something....... The mother breathes and gives oxygen to the child. You also forgot this scripture.......Jeremiah 1:5 ""Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations." God says HE knows us even before HE FORMS US IN THE WOMB. Your turn.
Click to expand...

Failias is proof that God has a sense of humor.
 
Jarod said:
As I said Dixie, many outspoken "Christians" like the "moral majority" (its not moral or a majority) or the "Religous Right" (its not religous or right) or the "Christian Coalition" are on the right, but the liberal Christians often do not form clans that are identified by wearing religion on the sleeve, they are still liberal and I would venture to say the numbers are as large as the Conservative Christians or larger. Liberal religous people tend to not use religen in an effort to push political adgenda's.

The Catholic Church is very Anti-Abortion, yet the membership is overwhelming liberal. Many religous groups do not oppose Gay marriage, the Episcipal Church (the largest church in the USA) ordains gay' clergy and performs gay marriages. The Unity Church does the same, as well as the American Baptists and the Unitarian Universalists.

Cat got your toung Dixie?
Click to expand...

Some so called Christian denominations are Christian in name only. They have left the Spirit of God and the Word of God and joined the new age secular progressive movement. The Christian church calls them "heretics". Nothing new.
 
Damocles said:
I believe we should err on the side of life, not only in the death penalty, but also in the earliest stages of human life. I don't think that women should be forced to be incubators though and think we should treat the early developing human as a separate patient, removing upon demand and attempting to incubate ex utero. It is time to end the practice of purposefully killing the only form of human life we know to be 100% innocent treating such life as a matter of throwing away "tissue", mostly because some just "don't believe" in some magic soul infusion moment happening at "this" point over another, while at the same time arguing that those convicted of the most heinous of crimes should be allowed to continue...
Click to expand...

"It is time to end the practice of purposefully killing the only form of human life we know to be 100% innocent treating such life as a matter of throwing away "tissue"..."

Just a note on "100% innocent". You're probably aware it's been considered that "sex" is the original sin. Some believe that was the reason Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. However, many people ask, "Why would God destroy children who would have been too young to be sexually active?"

It's been postulated the reason was DNA contamination. Over the generations the interbreeding between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" resulted in contamination resulting in the ultimate deluge being necessary to wipe the earth clean. However, the Bible goes on to say the "giants" (offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" were on the earth before and after the deluge meaning our DNA may still be contaminated in which case, biblically speaking, it's unlikely anyone is innocent.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top