relentless effort by Democrats to sell Russia collusion narrative across US gov't.

Cypress said:
Begging for Kremlin help against domestic political opponents on TV is a first in American presidential history.
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If it was a serious request, it would have been done in secret thru Pootie's secretly installed bat phone in the oval office, of course. :palm:
 
BidenPresident said:
It was done. You being ignorant is not evidence.
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You being so ignorant as to believe it was a serious remark, is evidence of your stupidity. :palm:

This wasn't a hot mic moment like when Obama got caught promising favors to Vlad, as long as he waits until after the election. :palm:
 
anatta said:
At January and February 2017 CIA meetings, Sussman claimed the phone first “appeared” in April 2016 (about the time the DNC hack supposedly took place) and even “appeared with Trump in Michigan” when he was interviewing a future cabinet secretary. Sussman went on to disingenuously claim to the CIA that the Yota smartphone used is often gifted to Russian officials.

The problem was that the information Sussman passed to the FBI was fake. Phony. Fabricated. Much like the Dossier. The CIA “concluded in early 2017 Russian Bank-1 data [Alfa] and Russian Phone Provider-1 [Yota] data was not ‘technically plausible,’ did not ‘withstand technical scrutiny,’ ‘contained gaps,’ ‘conflicted with [itself]’ and was ‘user created and not machine/tool generated.’”

Reuters‘s own tech people also said they could not authenticate the data and passed on the story.
While CIA declined to open an investigation based on such data, the FBI did, leaving open additional questions on whether or not the FBI was technically unschooled, or in on the greater conspiracy.

This new information also raises the question of why Robert Mueller or DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz did not ask why the FBI was so easily fooled when their CIA cousins across the river (and some journalists) saw through the grift. The FBI were warned — on September 7, 2016 the CIA sent FBI director James Comey and Peter Strzok a warning that Hillary Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia to distract from her email scandal.

Then, only twelve days later, Sussman approached the FBI, who, despite the heads-up, took the hook. Hillary Clinton tweeted, “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.”

This should also raise questions about Michael Sussman and his role representing the Democratic National Committee and the DNC server hack. Careful research by retired NSA persons suggests the server was accessed from inside the US, not hacked from Russia as widely alleged. One hates to go down the conspiracy road, but is Julian Assange, whose Wikileaks released some of the DNC emails, imprisoned in part because he could prove his source for the hacked emails was not Russian, as he has claimed?

Who knows, right? Maybe Researcher-2 (identified elsewhere as David Dagon of Georgia Tech, whose research focus is Botnets. Dagon previously bragged of using a “bag of tricks” to prove Trump-Russia collusion). Durham granted Researcher-2 immunity to “uncover otherwise-unavailable facts underlying the opposition research project.”

Durham also granted immunity to someone at Fusion GPS, the front organization which moved money from the DNC/Clinton campaign to both Dossier author Christopher Steele and Alfa/Yota pitchman Michael Sussman. The Fusion person is likely Laura Seago. Seago helped sell the fake Alfa data to Slate.

Earlier articles established that the Alfa/Yota conspiracy mirrored the Dossier conspiracy in style, funding and execution. This new information from Durham adds now, as with the Dossier, that the Alfa/Yota data was fake. The commonalities between the two as-yet-legally-unlinked conspiracies strongly suggest a common backstage element.

I spoke with a former US intelligence officer about what would be involved in managing an operation this size: Alfa, Yota, Dossier, liaison with the FBI, all the media planted bells and whistles, but just the admin side, not the actual spy work. She said it would be a very large job, likely bigger than many overseas stations would take on, something that would need its own working group in Washington. She said keeping the finances clean but covert alone would be a near full-time job.
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/walls-close-in-russiagate-perpetrators-durham/
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https://whatsnewinpublishing.com/spectator-launches-new-us-website-neutral-trump/


Spectator world ???????



HAHAHAHHHAAHAHAH

Looks like the Spectator has started a new side gig to try and “go neutral” on Trump


Yeah


He’s a loser


Glad you agree
 
Bigdog said:
If it was a serious request, it would have been done in secret thru Pootie's secretly installed bat phone in the oval office, of course. :palm:
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Problem is

It’s documented that Putin began to do just that like two days later


Presidents and people running for office should not make such jokes


It makes them unfit for office
 
Cypress said:
We all saw Donald Trumpf on national television beg the KGB to hack Democratic party computers.

Was Donald Trumpf an undercover KGB spy?

Obviously not, Trump is way too stupid and incompetent to be an undercover spy. FSB would never, ever trust him with covert ops.
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so what is the purpose of this post? TDS? well OK - but he said "Russia" and it was a bad attempt at humor
 
Cypress said:
Begging for Kremlin help against domestic political opponents on TV is a first in American presidential history.
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getting set up by the opposition for a fake Russian collusion story, backed by serious people intent on defrauding the electorate is (probably) a first as well -
especially since the CIA warned the FBI it was a bogus narrative to begin with
 
Cypress said:
It's pretty obvious why Vlad Putin was desperate for Trump to be elected over Clinton and Biden.
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there actually was a reason,
most people forget Trump wanted to try to improve US/Russian relations to triangulate against China

Instead Russia was frozen out, Trump was victimized by a Special Counsel
(despite Page saying there was "no there" there) and Russian relations went into the deep freeze

Ever wonder if Trump and Putin could have done some diplomatic dealing? I sure do.
Maybe we wouldn't have gone into Cold War 2 status and perhaps (no proof - but the both could benefit)
settle the Ukraine issue. The Dems/Deep State were determined to play it otherwise...and here we are..
 
anatta said:
there actually was a reason,
most people forget Trump wanted to try to improve US/Russian relations to triangulate against China

Instead Russia was frozen out, Trump was victimized by a Special Counsel
(despite Page saying there was "no there" there) and Russian relations went into the deep freeze

Ever wonder if Trump and Putin could have done some diplomatic dealing? I sure do.
Maybe we wouldn't have gone into Cold War 2 status and perhaps (no proof - but the both could benefit)
settle the Ukraine issue. The Dems/Deep State were determined to play it otherwise...and here we are..
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:thumbsup: exactly
 
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