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Then you should have NO problem providing the quote. We will wait... should only take you a few seconds to pull it up...
Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment
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Then you should have NO problem providing the quote. We will wait... should only take you a few seconds to pull it up...
I wasn't quoting him directly, as evidenced by the lack of quotation marks. I believe the verbatim offensive comment was posted above.
Do you seriously think that my paraphrase is off-base or are you just being an apologist for Republican Trent Lott's segregationist nostalgia? And, again, what specifically do you find offensive about Reid's remark?
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yes, I think you are way off base... which is why I requested you post the quote you are referring to so that we could discuss. So post the quote.
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And WHERE in that do you get that he was endorsing the fact that Thurmond was a Segregationist???
Are you serious?
I think the PC BS is out of hand, and I don't think either guy should have to (or have had to) step down, though I kind of wish Reid would anyway.
But you don't think he's referring to segregation? As they say on NFL Today, c'mon man!
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you would have credibility to say this if you had also harped on your fellow dems for obsessing over rush and the barack the magic negro comment
Go back and look, I said that about many conservatives and there comments. I used almost exactly the same wording.
Because Nigey wants to have a hissy fit.
Just read him....
I'll bet he's just twisting in the wind 'cause he don't have any light skinned negro friends that don't have a negro dialect. I think the dems are being totally consistant at wanting to keep their pal Reid from censure over his Obama's a nice light skinned literate negro comments.
As I said, it's fine to criticize Reid for what he said. Personally, I find his use of he term "Negro" offensive even though I don't think he used it in a derogatory manner.
Reid's comments that Obama's light-skin and the fact that he does not speak what is properly called American Black Vernacular are political assets are accurate observations of the unfortunate reality of American presidential politics.
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no, you didn't
Prove it!
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No, I do not think he was referring to segregation when he made those comments. He was reflecting on Strom's entire service and made a statement that, like Reid, was a poor choice of words in that it could be taken out of context by opponents and used as a weapon. Which the Dems did very effectively. For the same Dems to now try to shrug off the Reid comments as a simple misstatement is hypocritical.
I recognize the Dems were effective at painting Lott to be a racist because of these comments. I also recognize that some Reps are trying to return the favor with Reids comments.
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Maybe this has already been discussed and I missed but I find it funny the fact that he said negro dialect. I hear a lot of comments of 'he doesn't talk black' about some black folk today. I don't like it in the sense it portrays a negative to be either educated or to just simply speak proper grammer but that aside 'negro dialect' is pretty damn funny. WTF Reid?
Yes, in specifically referencing Strom's run for president on a segregationist platform and saying that the we wouldn't have all these problems if Strom were elected, Lott was not referring to segregation when he made those comments nor was he suggesting that we would be better off if the segregationists won.
It was not a "poor choice of words." Evidently, it was something that Lott felt for a long long time:
And the reality of the Lott situation is that his own party turned on him. The White House wanted a more accommodating majority leader and had one waiting in the wings with Bill Frist.
The thing about the Republicans and Reid that I don't understand is why they want his scalp. He had been a fairly ineffective majority leader and I seriously doubt that Schumer of Durbin would be worse than Reid. I personally wouldn't mind if Reid resigned from his leadership role.
I think that's bananas. I think there is 100% no doubt that Lott was referring to segregation.
As I said, I didn't really care about Lott's comments, and don't really care about Reid's. Too much is made of this kind of stuff. It has been my experience that there is a small amount of racism in just about everyone, and it comes out on occasion; in the south in particular, I think it comes out a bit more openly. When Lott made that comment, he was in a casual setting, and I think he was just saying what he & many other southerners of his generation feel.
I'm more concerned about policies that are racist or don't reflect equality. This kind of PC stuff is just fodder for the politics of personal destruction, and partisans just use it as an excuse to bring people down.