Regarding 1/6: questions abound

Hello no worries,

no worries said:
Anti-American too.

May 19 2021
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Wednesday morning that he will oppose a commission to investigate the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, calling the bipartisan proposal “slanted and unbalanced.”

The commission would consist of 10 independent experts who would investigate the causes of the Capitol riot and make recommendations to prevent it from happening again.

“There is, has been, and there will continue to be no shortage ― no shortage of robust investigations by two separate branches of the federal government,” McConnell said Wednesday. “It’s not at all clear what new facts or additional investigation yet another commission could actually lay on top of existing efforts by law enforcement and Congress.”

Teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) had no problem investigating Hillary, 9 times, though.
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McConnell serves only the Republican Party, over the USA. He is masquerading as a public servant.

"America first" is a joke to McConnell.

He laughs at the notion of patriotism.
 
Phantasmal said:
The proposed commission was going to be bipartisan, redfish is grossly misinformed.

“The proposed commission was modeled on the one established to investigate the 9/11 terror attacks, with 10 commissioners — five Democrats and five Republicans — who would have subpoena powers. A Democratic chair and Republican vice chair would have had to approve all subpoenas with a final report due at the end of the year.”

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/1000...-independent-commission-on-jan-6-capitol-riot
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He's going by what the Republicans themselves said. The reason why he can't explain an alternative or corrected bipartisan commission is because they didn't give one. Kinda like Obamacare; they bitched about it all the time but never, ever came up with a better alternative.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello no worries,


McConnell serves only the Republican Party, over the USA. He is masquerading as a public servant.

"America first" is a joke to McConnell.

He laughs at the notion of patriotism.
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Unfortunately true. The Republican resistence to a full 1/6 investigation is from fear that they'd all be out of jobs between 2022 and 2024.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



Nice try.

That's only your opinion. One view among multitudes.

That would be the most Trump-friendly definition of insurrection.

Fortunately, it is not you who gets to decide the crimes nor the guilt associated with the 2021 national Day Of Infamy.
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Neither is it you lol.

The charging documents get to ‘define’ insurrection and so far they have been mum on it. So, if/when we see documents to that effect well discuss the ‘insurrection’.

But I wouldn’t get my hopes up. One of the leaders charged in the riot said their objective was to ‘disrupt the certification’. The problem [if you’re hoping for capital punishment or whatever] is that there’s nothing in the US Code that pertains that specific act; rather, it falls under the rubric of ‘disrupting an official proceeding’ or something to the effect.

Then there’s trespassing; destruction of federal property and the like. To put it mildly, these fall short of capital crimes. Or insurrection.
 
ExpressLane said:
He was never hit with a fire extinguisher you moron. He had no injuries per the autopsy report. You are as big of a Moron as your President.
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There's no proof Sicknick didn't have bruises or wasn't hit by thrown objects. What did the injury report say other than what killed him? Trump is no longer President despite all the rumors he's still the President and will be reinstated in August.

I couldn't find a full report listing bruises, contusions, etc. Although it's clear none of those killed him, saying they don't exist is false information.

Additionally, anyone who claims an event where 140 police officers were attacked with such severity that they suffered "head and back injuries, gouged eyes and severed fingers." Anyone who claims this was a peaceful protest or a normal capitol tourist visit is either insane or a fucking liar.

There's this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ian-sicknick-died-strokes-autopsy/7291796002/
About 140 officers were injured during the riot, suffering head and back injuries, gouged eyes and severed fingers. Security video played at the Senate impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump showed officers beaten, trampled and at least one crushed in a door.

Julian Elie Khater, 32, of State College, Pennsylvania, was charged in the assault of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.

Two men have been charged with assaulting Sicknick by allegedly spraying him with a chemical, but are not charged not with his death. Julian Elie Khater, 32, of State College, Pennsylvania, and George Pierre Tanios, 39, of Morgantown, West Virginia, were each charged with nine counts, including three counts of assaulting an officer of the United States with a deadly weapon, conspiracy to injure an officer and physical violence on restricted grounds.

Each assault charge carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Four others died the day of the riot, one after being shot by police, two of natural causes and one of an accidental drug overdose.
 
no worries said:
Sad, you support and defend an anti- American.

March 3 2018
U.S. President Donald Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping Saturday after the ruling Communist party announced it was eliminating the two-term limit for the presidency, paving the way for Xi to serve indefinitely.

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida.
“And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

Dotard and his cult cheering for communist and communism.

Congratulations to President Xi and the Chinese people on the 70th Anniversary of the People’s Republic of China!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2019
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your opinion
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Have all the discussions you want lol.

It’s not an insurrection until we see indictments related to it.
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Nice try.

That's only your opinion. One view among multitudes.

That would be the most Trump-friendly definition of insurrection.

Fortunately, it is not you who gets to decide the crimes nor the guilt associated with the 2021 national Day Of Infamy.
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This bullshit about it not being an insurrection until charges are filed is like saying OJ is innocent of murder because he wasn't convicted in court.
 
Son of the Revolution said:
GO AWAY ANKLE BITER
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Typing in all caps just makes you look like a fucking moron, not a man. You and I both know you are a paper tiger. A pussboy who plays tough on the Internet then goes to your dead-end job M-F.....the same place you'll be in 2024. Do you wear a paper hat or rubber gloves?
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Neither is it you lol.

The charging documents get to ‘define’ insurrection and so far they have been mum on it. So, if/when we see documents to that effect well discuss the ‘insurrection’.

But I wouldn’t get my hopes up. One of the leaders charged in the riot said their objective was to ‘disrupt the certification’. The problem [if you’re hoping for capital punishment or whatever] is that there’s nothing in the US Code that pertains that specific act; rather, it falls under the rubric of ‘disrupting an official proceeding’ or something to the effect.

Then there’s trespassing; destruction of federal property and the like. To put it mildly, these fall short of capital crimes. Or insurrection.
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'so far' being the operative phrase there.

And insurrection would be very difficult to prove in a court of law. Just as difficult as proving a conspiracy. Motive has to be shown. Planning. Execution. It is far easier to send these people up on more straight forward crimes. Did they commit assault on a Capitol Police Officer or other individual, yes or no. Did they commit criminal trespass. Did they destroy public property? These are easier crimes to prosecute than politically motivated attempts to redirect our government to their own liking and against the will of the voting public.

They tried to take control of our government.

They deserve very serious punishment for unAmerican activities.

They acted as an enemy of America.

If it was liberals who did it you would not be trying to downplay it.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Typing in all caps just makes you look like a fucking moron, not a man. You and I both know you are a paper tiger. A pussboy who plays tough on the Internet then goes to your dead-end job M-F.....the same place you'll be in 2024. Do you wear a paper hat or rubber gloves?
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LMFAO you poor ankle biter... it's all you got coward
 
Darth Omar said:
Have all the discussions you want lol.

It’s not an insurrection until we see indictments related to it.
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Translation: A murder is not a murder until a person is charged with murder.

Seriously? What the fuck kind of tree did you fall out of, Opie?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Right on.
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It was clearly an insurrection. An attempted coup with the intent of murdering most of Congress along with VP Pence and disrupting the proceedings certifying the EC votes.

What can be proved in court is another matter. Let's not forget that the reason the captured al-Qaeda terrorists were sent to GITMO was because the evidence to try them in a US court was insufficient...because they have legal rights in the US. In GITMO they're just enemy combatants under the Geneva Convention.

It doesn't matter if not a single person is convicted of "Insurrection", "Attempted Coup", "Premeditated Murder" or "domestic terrorism" since that's a legal issue not always tied to reality as we saw with OJ, Robert Blake and Bill Clinton.
 
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