Record fundraising by a nuclear fusion start-up

Build a battery or stfu.

BATTERY WASTAGE
Why battery storage for rooftop solar doesn’t pay
https://www.thegwpf.org/content/upl...ail&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-0b1b909cab-36413417

Extensive Subsidies For Renewable Energy Technologies
https://www.scribd.com/document/376113430/Extensive-Subsidies-for-Renewable-Energy-Technologies

Energy Storage Grand
Challenge: Energy Storage
Market Report
https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/12/f81/Energy Storage Market Report 2020_0.pdf

https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/articles/solar-plus-storage-101

On top of the stupidity of having to ADD a storage system to the generation system--something conventional generation of electricity doesn't need--the storage systems are grotesquely expensive to build. This is just one more thing that makes solar and wind unaffordable.
 
In time- there has to be a battery solution. Forget the ' US global leadership ' crap. It's a universal endeavor.
 
Elon Musk's Tesla to back central Queensland battery project in Australian-first collaboration

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Genex says it has contracts for Tesla to supply a large, 50-megawatt battery and will use Tesla's algorithm-powered bidding system to sell its power.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12...cfg3lEHA48A9CFX9N_3FHaqTnidtJFYFhyYKlpM0vE1Pw

Infancy- but the future.
 
https://www.thegwpf.org/content/upl...ail&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-0b1b909cab-36413417


https://www.scribd.com/document/376113430/Extensive-Subsidies-for-Renewable-Energy-Technologies


https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/12/f81/Energy Storage Market Report 2020_0.pdf

https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/articles/solar-plus-storage-101

On top of the stupidity of having to ADD a storage system to the generation system--something conventional generation of electricity doesn't need--the storage systems are grotesquely expensive to build. This is just one more thing that makes solar and wind unaffordable.

Sadly McMoonshi'ite is far too stupid and technically illiterate to ever understand that.
 
Sadly McMoonshi'ite is far too stupid and technically illiterate to ever understand that.

Show us your battery concept, maggot.

You can always find an aditorial and cut-and-paste it.




Haw, haw................................haw.
 
On top of the stupidity of having to ADD a storage system to the generation system--something conventional generation of electricity doesn't need--the storage systems are grotesquely expensive to build. This is just one more thing that makes solar and wind unaffordable.

That's at the opinion stage


Elon Musk's Tesla to back central Queensland battery project in Australian-first collaboration

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Genex says it has contracts for Tesla to supply a large, 50-megawatt battery and will use Tesla's algorithm-powered bidding system to sell its power.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12...cfg3lEHA48A9CFX9N_3FHaqTnidtJFYFhyYKlpM0vE1Pw

Infancy- but the future.
 

The problem with the article linked is that is neglects to give us two critical pieces of information:

The first is how many hours of supply is that? Without knowing the time function of the battery, the capacity is meaningless.

The second is what does that cost? Not some subsidized cost, but the full actual cost.

My bet is when you add those two pieces of information, the project is a very costly bust.
 
The problem with the article linked is that is neglects to give us two critical pieces of information:

The first is how many hours of supply is that? Without knowing the time function of the battery, the capacity is meaningless.

The second is what does that cost? Not some subsidized cost, but the full actual cost.

My bet is when you add those two pieces of information, the project is a very costly bust.

Contracts are signed- so I guess that somebody has answered your queries to their satisfaction.
 
What's to show? Batteries are not a large scale solution, why you don't understand that is beyond me.

Tomorrow's batteries have to be what today's batteries are not, maggot. That's the challenge. Nuclear is a retreat into the primitive . Dump your stock.


Haw, haw..........................haw.
 
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Tomorrow's batteries have to be be what today's batteries are not, maggot. That's the challenge. Nuclear is a retreat into the primitive . Dump your stock.


Haw, haw..........................haw.

It's pointless discussing these matters with people líke you, so I won't.
 
Contracts are signed- so I guess that somebody has answered your queries to their satisfaction.

Doesn't change anything I've said. Even if they're going ahead with the project, it's still a non-necessity except with unreliable energy sources like wind and solar. It's still grotesquely expensive per KWH stored.
 
Tomorrow's batteries have to be what today's batteries are not, maggot. That's the challenge. Nuclear is a retreat into the primitive . Dump your stock.
Haw, haw..........................haw.

Nuclear is the only cost effective and viable option. Batteries will never get better enough to make them cost effective because you cannot change the laws of physics and chemistry. Batteries follow the periodic table and you cannot change that.
 
Here's how awful solar is compared to nuclear:

The last reactor plant in the US finished was Palo Verde in Arizona. It cost $11.5 billion in 2016 dollars to complete. It produces 4000 MW and takes up 4,000 acres of land. It averages 32,300 GW / yr of power produced.

Ivanpah solar in California is the US's largest solar array. It cost $2.5 billion in 2016 dollars to complete. It produces 400 MW, takes up 4000 acres of land and averages 940 GW / yr.

Worse, Ivanpah has a listed capacity factor (averaged power output vs. nameplate per day) of 20.5% versus Palo Verde's 94% capacity factor. That is, Ivanpah is expected to produce just 82 MW-days of power per day versus Palo Verde producing 3760 MW-days of power per day.

That equates to Palo Verde being 46 times as efficient, producing 34 times more power per year, and doing that at roughly 5 times the cost to build the plant.

For Ivanpah to produce an equivalent output requires a footprint of 136,000 acres or about 212.5 square miles. This is roughly 15 miles x 15 miles of solar array. The cost would be approximately $85 billion dollars in 2016 dollars.

So, even if you triple the cost of building a new nuclear powerplant over what Palo Verde cost, it absolutely still demolishes solar in terms of cost of construction and operation. That's how much more efficient nuclear is.

The only reason it isn't being used and argued for is that those against it are either retarded morons who know nothing, and /or are scientific illiterates who are scared to death of all things nuclear because of the massive amount of lies and propaganda put out by the environmental Left (who fit the above two criteria).
 
Here's how awful solar is compared to nuclear:

The last reactor plant in the US finished was Palo Verde in Arizona. It cost $11.5 billion in 2016 dollars to complete. It produces 4000 MW and takes up 4,000 acres of land. It averages 32,300 GW / yr of power produced.

Ivanpah solar in California is the US's largest solar array. It cost $2.5 billion in 2016 dollars to complete. It produces 400 MW, takes up 4000 acres of land and averages 940 GW / yr.

Worse, Ivanpah has a listed capacity factor (averaged power output vs. nameplate per day) of 20.5% versus Palo Verde's 94% capacity factor. That is, Ivanpah is expected to produce just 82 MW-days of power per day versus Palo Verde producing 3760 MW-days of power per day.

That equates to Palo Verde being 46 times as efficient, producing 34 times more power per year, and doing that at roughly 5 times the cost to build the plant.

For Ivanpah to produce an equivalent output requires a footprint of 136,000 acres or about 212.5 square miles. This is roughly 15 miles x 15 miles of solar array. The cost would be approximately $85 billion dollars in 2016 dollars.

So, even if you triple the cost of building a new nuclear powerplant over what Palo Verde cost, it absolutely still demolishes solar in terms of cost of construction and operation. That's how much more efficient nuclear is.

The only reason it isn't being used and argued for is that those against it are either retarded morons who know nothing, and /or are scientific illiterates who are scared to death of all things nuclear because of the massive amount of lies and propaganda put out by the environmental Left (who fit the above two criteria).

I thought Ivanpah had shut down along with Crescent Dunes?

The US is rife with technically illiterate scum like Moonshi'ite and sadly the media is full of them as well.
 
I thought Ivanpah had shut down along with Crescent Dunes?

The US is rife with technically illiterate scum like Moonshi'ite and sadly the media is full of them as well.

Nope, it's still running--badly--but running. I suspect it's more because Cali has a shortage of power to begin with and they have no choice but to continue to run it to meet their needs as best they can.
 
Nuclear is the only cost effective and viable option. Batteries will never get better enough to make them cost effective because you cannot change the laws of physics and chemistry. Batteries follow the periodic table and you cannot change that.

Nuclear is what? It is an extremely expensive and dangerous way to boil water.
 
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