Dixie - In Memoriam
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And you don't have to like what WE THE PEOPLE decide either.
Right now, 8 out of 10 PEOPLE, don't agree with you.
Tap those heels harder Dorothy!
Reality: Homosexual Marriage
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And you don't have to like what WE THE PEOPLE decide either.
Right now, 8 out of 10 PEOPLE, don't agree with you.
Tap those heels harder Dorothy!
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
And you don't have to like what WE THE PEOPLE decide either.
Right now, 8 out of 10 PEOPLE, don't agree with you.
Tap those heels harder Dorothy!
You appear to be the one needing to tap those heels, grinch.
Read them and weep.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marp.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100524/gay-marriage-support-gains-slightly-in-us/index.html
There are more; but I know that you'll have a hissy, over just these 3.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Ohhh... You were only talking about in California, where gay activists have been pouring tons of money into their little 'movement' since the last ballot failure for Gay Marriage? Dang... I thought you were talking about America, you know, with all the Bill of Rights stuff, and how I am going to have to accept it in Alabama... Sounded like you were talking about the whole nation! Forgive me for misunderstanding that you just meant in California, people are changing their minds. Now I understand....
Well, here's the thing USGaybait... There is a HUGE number of people in America who vehemently oppose Gay Marriage, and I don't think you can wrap your little pinhead mind around those numbers, to be honest. But trust me on this, you stand a snowball's chance in hell of ever seeing anything officially called "Gay Marriage" in America. This will NOT happen, I don't give a shit how long you click your little heels together, Dorothy! It just is not going to happen, and if the Supreme Court makes it happen, you'll see a Constitutional amendment ratified. That's pretty neat, you don't usually get to see those in your lifetime either! So we will have that to discuss later, IF the Supreme Court goes all stupid on us and gives us Gay Marriage.
...So Sayeth The Idiot Prophet!
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Odd that you would spend the time typing such a length response; but yet you failed t0 address the entire comment that I left for you??!!
Well, maybe not that odd; seeing as how it's become obvious that you're trying to control your hatred for gays.
I thought I would assist you though and post not only the part you adressed; but also the part where you tried to make it look like I hadn't referred to the entire US.
Dixie said:
I also noticed that you failed to address the majority of the rest of my post and since I'm being so helpful; I thought I would post it below; just to try and help you.
I'm becoming a little concerned, about your well being; because you seem to exhibiting a lot anger, as of late, and you've been releasing it by being insultive in your posts.
But that's OK; because it's obvious that your world appears to be crumbling around you and it scares you.
Same sex marriages are going to be legalized, in all 50 States, there is NOT going to be an amendment restricting it, and even though you may consider yourself a prophet, you might want to known as something other then the Idiot one.
Earlier you claimed that this was a left leaning board and yet, it's just awful curious to me; here we have a contingent of people highly against Gay Marriage, much more so than the general population, yet not a soul has "rethought" their position on Gay Marriage. In the time I"ve been here, I have not seen one person come forward and say... ya know, I supported Gay Marriage, but after hearing your stellar debate and magnificent points, I have changed my mind about it, and now I'm against Gay Marriage! Not a soul!
Gird thy loins and prefare yourself for the time when same sex marriages will be allowed and recognized, by all the States; for this will occur within your lifetime.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Swinging is also detrimental to health, it even spreads the same diseases...
You'd figure people who thought this way would want those people to settle down to one partner so the disease would not continue to spread...
Shoot, it's even okay to marry strangers on TV... and according to PMP, it's all good, no matter how odd it gets so long as "this" abnormality is excluded.
Trying to equate swinging with queer is a weak analogy. Swingers don't advertise the perverted facts of their lifestyle to the public, and especially not to children.
Not particularly, when the argument was about how we deny "this group" because of HIV, then we ignore another group that spreads that disease more...
The idea that "this group" is any more "dangerous" when they take an oath to stick with one partner than "that group" who doesn't follow it yet can still get married it takes away another excuse.
The reality is that Marriage is happening among homosexuals, it just remains "unrecognized" because the government is busy ignoring the constitution and establishing Judeo-Christian values into law.
Southern Woman
Banned
Maybe he has a vested interest.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
The federal government isn't instituting marriage licenses. Marriage is in accordance with State constitutions, and depending on the State, they may choose to recognize a theological basis or not.
HIV is merely one of the problems with queers, Damo. The main issue that I have with queer marriage is that it forces society to lie to children and claim that it is normal moral natural and healthy.
Southern Woman
Banned
Here's a bandwagon for all you queers and queer lovers:
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult and minor males. NAMBLA also calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult and minor males. NAMBLA also calls for "the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
The next time you attend your required meeting, bring up the little bit of information regarrding CONSENTING ADULTS.
Children can not legally give conseent.
Southern Woman
Banned
Now they can't, but the queers and queer lovers like you want to change that.
'NAMBLA also calls for the adoption of laws that both protect children from unwanted sexual experiences and at the same time leave them free to determine the content of their own sexual experiences."
How did you miss that?
Guess it's true, it does make you go blind.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
Postmodern Prophet is ignoring the baby killer....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
maybe you should engage in it now......
Southern Chicken
Verified User
LOL , The link I posted was a direct rebuttal to the link you posted after me. Your link was from the SAME AUTHOR(Paul Cameron) which was disputed in my link. LOL The link specifically shows how your link was in error from his methods of producing data.
AGAIN I WILL REPOST MY LINK FOR YOU TO READ THIS TIME-
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Quote:
Do Any Studies Claim To Show That Homosexuals Are More Likely To Molest Children?
One individual has claimed to have data that prove homosexuals to be child molesters at a higher rate than heterosexuals. That person is Paul Cameron. As detailed elsewhere on this site, Cameron's survey data are subject to so many methodological flaws as to be virtually meaningless. Even so, his assertions are sometimes quoted by antigay organizations in their attempts to link homosexuality with child sexual abuse.
In a 1985 article published in Psychological Reports, Cameron purported to review published data to answer the question, "Do those who commit homosexual acts disproportionately incorporate children into their sexual practices?" (p. 1227). He concluded that "at least one-third of the sexual attacks upon youth are homosexual" (p. 1228) and that "those who are bi- to homosexual are proportionately much more apt to molest youth" than are heterosexuals (p. 1231).
Cameron's claims hinge on the fallacious assumption that all male-male molestations are committed by homosexuals. Moreover, a careful reading of Cameron's paper reveals several false statements about the literature he claimed to have reviewed.
For example, he cited the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) study mentioned previously as evidencing a 3:2 ratio of "heterosexual" (i.e., female victim) to "homosexual" (i.e., male victim) molestations, and he noted that "54% of all the molestations in this study were performed by bisexual or homosexual practitioners" (p. 1231). However, Groth and Birnbaum reported that none of the men in their sample had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation, and that none of the 22 bisexual men were more attracted to adult males than to adult females. The "54%" statistic reported by Cameron doesn't appear anywhere in the Groth and Birnbaum (1978) article, nor does Cameron explain its derivation.
It is also noteworthy that, although Cameron assumed that the perpetrators of male-male molestations were all homosexual, he assumed that not all male-female molestations were committed by heterosexuals. He incorporated a "bisexual correction" into his data manipulations to increase further his estimate of the risk posed to children by homosexual/bisexual men.
In the latter half of his paper, Cameron considered whether "homosexual teachers have more frequent sexual interaction with their pupils" (p. 1231). Based on 30 instances of sexual contact between a teacher and pupil reported in ten different sources published between 1920 and 1982, Cameron concluded that "a pupil would appear about 90 times more likely to be sexually assaulted by a homosexual practitioner" (p.1232); the ratio rose to 100 times when Cameron added his bisexual correction.
This ratio is meaningless because no data were obtained concerning the actual sexual orientation of the teachers involved; as before, Cameron assumed that male-male contacts were perpetrated by homosexuals. Furthermore, Cameron's rationale for selecting particular sources appears to have been completely arbitrary. He described no systematic method for reviewing the literature, and apparently never reviewed the voluminous literature on the sexual development of children and adolescents. His final choice of sources appears to have slanted his findings toward what Cameron described as "the relative absence in the scientific literature of heterosexual teacher-pupil sexual events coupled with persistent, albeit infrequent, homosexual teacher-pupil sexual interactions" (p. 1232).
A subsequent paper by Cameron and others (Cameron, Proctor, Coburn, Forde, Larson, & Cameron, 1986) described data collected in a door-to-door survey in seven U.S. cities and towns, and generally repeated the conclusions reached in Cameron (1985). Even Cameron himself admitted that his conclusions in this study are "based upon small numbers of data points" (Cameron, 2005, p. 230). As before, male-male sexual assaults were referred to as "homosexual" molestations (e.g., Abstract, p.327) and the perpetrators' sexual orientation apparently was not assessed. This study also suffers from fatal methodological problems, which are detailed elsewhere on this site.
In yet another article published in Psychological Reports, Cameron claimed to have reviewed data about foster parents in Illinois and found that 34% were perpetrated by a foster parent against a child of the same sex, that is, female-female or male-male (Cameron, 2005). Not only did Cameron again make the fallacious claim that all male-male molestations are committed by homosexuals, he also made the same claim about female-female molestations. Once again, he had no data about the actual sexual orientations of the molesters.
Cameron continues to produce reports that essentially repeat the same inaccurate claims. Perhaps one of the best indicators of his diminishing credibility in this area is that his work was not cited in the 2004 FRC report discussed in detail above.
Conclusion
The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.
YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO POST YOUR LINK AS A RESPONSE ,LOL
AGAIN PMP, SOUTHERN Chick, AND Southern Man need to try and keep up
QUESTION STILL REMAINS SOUTHERN MAN------WHY LIE????????
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Southern Chicken
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USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
No, those you've mentioned aren't working towards changing what you've mentioned.
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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Southern Woman
Banned
You're not?
Explain this, then: the goal of the queers is "to end the oppression of men and boys who have mutually consensual relationships"....membership is open to everyone sympathetic"
That would be YOU.
http://www.nambla.org/