Reality check: Soc Sec and the GOP

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
So tonight when Biden gave his SOTU speech and called out the Republicans on their effort to screw with Social Security and Medicare (i.e., privatization), the "brave" MAGA yahoos yelled out "liar" and harrumphed loudly.

Well for those who like to drink the Republican Kool Aid regarding Social Security & Medicare, here's a sobering critical analysis:


 
T. A. Gardner said:
Is Mike Pence a member of Congress? What office does he currently hold in government?
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Oh that's right, I forgot: When star GOP politicos make statements that are DEFINITELY against the best interests of the average working American (and the MAGA trolls & sycophants can't logically or factually or rationally defend it), you immediately disavow their significance by any means necessary.

Well dipstick, you should have paid attention to what old Mikey said in his first couple of sentences. Before he became VP, he was in Congress SINCE THE REAGAN YEARS. So 2 years out doesn't negate his assertions....ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURRENT GOP IS FOLLOWING SUIT TO THEM.

THINK before you troll, TD....makes you look less stupid.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Oh that's right, I forgot: When star GOP politicos make statements that are DEFINITELY against the best interests of the average working American (and the MAGA trolls & sycophants can't logically or factually or rationally defend it), you immediately disavow their significance by any means necessary.

Well dipstick, you should have paid attention to what old Mikey said in his first couple of sentences. Before he became VP, he was in Congress SINCE THE REAGAN YEARS. So 2 years out doesn't negate his assertions....ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURRENT GOP IS FOLLOWING SUIT TO THEM.

THINK before you troll, TD....makes you look less stupid.
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The GOP put democrats Social security and medicare lies to bed forever. The democrats looked foolish claiming that. Biden looked shocked when GOP stood up in support od SS
 
ptif219 said:
The GOP put democrats Social security and medicare lies to bed forever. The democrats looked foolish claiming that. Biden looked shocked when GOP stood up in support od SS
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Only in your dreams, son. Yahoos wailing "liar" during the SOTU didn't suit the GOP when they pulled it with Obama, and given the subject matter it sure as hell won't sell to the American public at large (no matter what side of the political fence you are on).

The GOP rebuttal was just a parroting of the SOS.....jokers like you CANNOT logically or factually refute or disprove the information referred to in the 2 videos I post here. So you'll just blow all types of generalized smoke and BS....so much more to pity a person like you who supports cutting his own throat. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Oh that's right, I forgot: When star GOP politicos make statements that are DEFINITELY against the best interests of the average working American (and the MAGA trolls & sycophants can't logically or factually or rationally defend it), you immediately disavow their significance by any means necessary.

Well dipstick, you should have paid attention to what old Mikey said in his first couple of sentences. Before he became VP, he was in Congress SINCE THE REAGAN YEARS. So 2 years out doesn't negate his assertions....ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURRENT GOP IS FOLLOWING SUIT TO THEM.

THINK before you troll, TD....makes you look less stupid.
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Nice strawman using a red herring.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Only in your dreams, son. Yahoos wailing "liar" during the SOTU didn't suit the GOP when they pulled it with Obama, and given the subject matter it sure as hell won't sell to the American public at large (no matter what side of the political fence you are on).

The GOP rebuttal was just a parroting of the SOS.....jokers like you CANNOT logically or factually refute or disprove the information referred to in the 2 videos I post here. So you'll just blow all types of generalized smoke and BS....so much more to pity a person like you who supports cutting his own throat. Carry on.
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The rebuttal was great and showed the lies and sad state this country is in under Biden. Biden said spend spend spend and said nothing about paying for it
 
Taichiliberal said:
Only in your dreams, son. Yahoos wailing "liar" during the SOTU didn't suit the GOP when they pulled it with Obama, and given the subject matter it sure as hell won't sell to the American public at large (no matter what side of the political fence you are on).

The GOP rebuttal was just a parroting of the SOS.....jokers like you CANNOT logically or factually refute or disprove the information referred to in the 2 videos I post here. So you'll just blow all types of generalized smoke and BS....so much more to pity a person like you who supports cutting his own throat. Carry on.
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Biden isn't Obama. Obama was smart enough, and a much better orator than Biden. Biden made one of his usual baldfaced lies and got caught in it. He was completely stopped in his tracks and stumbled badly over it. He then was forced to ignore it and just go back to trying to finish his speech. It was a retarded and stupid move on his part. His handlers should have known it and avoided letting him utter it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Oh that's right, I forgot: When star GOP politicos make statements that are DEFINITELY against the best interests of the average working American (and the MAGA trolls & sycophants can't logically or factually or rationally defend it), you immediately disavow their significance by any means necessary.

Well dipstick, you should have paid attention to what old Mikey said in his first couple of sentences. Before he became VP, he was in Congress SINCE THE REAGAN YEARS. So 2 years out doesn't negate his assertions....ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURRENT GOP IS FOLLOWING SUIT TO THEM.

THINK before you troll, TD....makes you look less stupid.
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Nice strawman using a red herring.
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translation: TA Gardner gets royally nailed for yet another stupid MAGA mouthing, and throws out this lame retort reminiscent of that other MAGA idiot's "fallacy" squawking. :rolleyes:
 
ptif219 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Only in your dreams, son. Yahoos wailing "liar" during the SOTU didn't suit the GOP when they pulled it with Obama, and given the subject matter it sure as hell won't sell to the American public at large (no matter what side of the political fence you are on).

The GOP rebuttal was just a parroting of the SOS.....jokers like you CANNOT logically or factually refute or disprove the information referred to in the 2 videos I post here. So you'll just blow all types of generalized smoke and BS....so much more to pity a person like you who supports cutting his own throat. Carry on.
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The rebuttal was great and showed the lies and sad state this country is in under Biden. Biden said spend spend spend and said nothing about paying for it
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Ahh, but the devil is in the details, as they say. Observe and learn (if you dare):

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/feb/08/fact-checking-sarah-huckabee-sanders-republican-re/
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Biden isn't Obama. Obama was smart enough, and a much better orator than Biden. Biden made one of his usual baldfaced lies and got caught in it. He was completely stopped in his tracks and stumbled badly over it. He then was forced to ignore it and just go back to trying to finish his speech. It was a retarded and stupid move on his part. His handlers should have known it and avoided letting him utter it.
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The OP was about the BIG FUCKING LIE that the GOP keeps pushing about what they really want to do with Social Security and Medicare. To date, neither you or any of your compadres can point for point fault or disprove the content of said posted videos. So you'll just blow smoke as usual.
 
Taichiliberal said:
So tonight when Biden gave his SOTU speech and called out the Republicans on their effort to screw with Social Security and Medicare (i.e., privatization), the "brave" MAGA yahoos yelled out "liar" and harrumphed loudly.

Well for those who like to drink the Republican Kool Aid regarding Social Security & Medicare, here's a sobering critical analysis:


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Mike pence is not in government.
 
ptif219 said:
The GOP put democrats Social security and medicare lies to bed forever. The democrats looked foolish claiming that. Biden looked shocked when GOP stood up in support od SS
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Is that what you think happened? WOW.The Repubs, not all, have been coming out for cutting Social Security and Medicare for a long time. Trump was for it too. Biden pointed that out and The Reds did not want to own it so they lied. Biden saw an opportunity and said " Ok, so you want to promise you are not going to try to cut SS and Medicare, Good, problem solved.
The Repubs have been out and in open trying to cut or end those programs.
It is amazing how little you know. https://www.protectourcare.org/of-c...-medicare-are-under-threat-just-ask-mike-lee/
 
Nordberg said:
Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
The GOP put democrats Social security and medicare lies to bed forever. The democrats looked foolish claiming that. Biden looked shocked when GOP stood up in support od SS
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Is that what you think happened? WOW.The Repubs, not all, have been coming out for cutting Social Security and Medicare for a long time. Trump was for it too. Biden pointed that out and The Reds did not want to own it so they lied. Biden saw an opportunity and said " Ok, so you want to promise you are not going to try to cut SS and Medicare, Good, problem solved.
The Repubs have been out and in open trying to cut or end those programs.
It is amazing how little you know. https://www.protectourcare.org/of-c...-medicare-are-under-threat-just-ask-mike-lee/
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Our resident right wing wonks/trolls/toadies practice what is known as "willful ignorance".
 
Nordberg said:
Is that what you think happened? WOW.The Repubs, not all, have been coming out for cutting Social Security and Medicare for a long time. Trump was for it too. Biden pointed that out and The Reds did not want to own it so they lied. Biden saw an opportunity and said " Ok, so you want to promise you are not going to try to cut SS and Medicare, Good, problem solved.
The Repubs have been out and in open trying to cut or end those programs.
It is amazing how little you know. https://www.protectourcare.org/of-c...-medicare-are-under-threat-just-ask-mike-lee/
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Biden as always lied. You love corrupt democrat lies
 
ptif219 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Ahh, but the devil is in the details, as they say. Observe and learn (if you dare):

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...republican-re/
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Imagine that democrats finding fault with the GOP. I AM SHOCKED. !!!!!!!!!
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Imagine a MAGA minion/right wing wonk actually READING information that can factually prove them wrong on a point....AND THEN PUBLICLY ADMITTING IT!

Oh wait, that didn't happen here....just the usual MAGA BS. No shock there. Carry on.
 
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