Reality check on electric cars
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Into the Night
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No garage is making money doing this! You are hallucinating again, Sybil!
Into the Night
Verified User
A misnomer. They (a government) CAN turn off gasoline cars remotely (at least for some of them!).
Gasoline powered cars today are FADEC design. That means a digital computer is required to run the engine. Nothing prevents someone from inserting a 'kill switch' into the software of such a computer. Of course, the manufacturer would have be willing to do this.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
And, the car would have to be linked in someway to a network (like OnStar). Without that outside link, it's kind of hard to remotely do something like what is proposed.
Into the Night
Verified User
Actually, quite easy. If such a 'kill switch' is installed in the car, a simple radio receiver can do the job of signaling the computer. The car typically already HAS such a radio receiver for things like door unlock commands from a key fob or for keyless ignition. No network needed.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Those have very limited range comparatively to being networked.
Into the Night
Verified User
Oh? I can hit a key fob receiver on a car from several hundred feet (almost a thousand in good conditions) away. More than enough for a roadside police car to send a kill switch signal to a passing car.
Indeed, police are already wanting to implement this technology on new cars to avoid the high speed chases and PIT maneuvers that can be dangerous to conduct. Don't think they'll get it though.
I guess they will have to depend on the road spikes and wheel nets or a PIT maneuver to stop a fleeing car.
You rightys cannot learn. EV drivers almost never exhaust the charge. My sons Bolt gets 200 miles of range. Do you think he drives 200 miles a day? It is extremely rare to take a charge down very much. The charge time is far less than those extremes that you somehow claim are usual. The charging occurs at night as you sleep. Plugging in is a 10 second job. Filling a gas tank is a much longer commitment. EV owners do not notice gas prices, DTE sends you info for approved companies to install charging stations. They give you a substantial cut on rates. They also ask you to charge in low-use periods, which is easy since that is at night when you sleep.
My 2015 Volt advertised 50 miles of range. It got 48 or 9 when new. It now gets 44.
If I have to drive 100 miles. I get 44 electric and 56 gas.
Much cheaper. You lose. You have no idea of what the differences are. https://www.nrdc.org/stories/electr...O-cpmgkYVZT4t7Sk3rwoI74aZ7luGCoxoCrTEQAvD_BwEI drove 75 miles to a car show and back on $80, including hot dogs. A fun, but loud and uncomfortable 10 mpg...
...bet your EV can't do that
RB 60
Get Off My Lawn
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Since when is Port Tack a "righty"?
"The charge" exhausts by the EV just sitting, dude.
No, it doesn't. I've already explained how/why it doesn't. It gets closer to 100 miles of range (and that's being generous) under non-ideal conditions.
Obviously he doesn't.
He'd have to drive, spend hours to refuel, and then drive again in order to (maybe) do that. Might even have to refuel TWICE in order to get that far.
Meanwhile, I could just start out with a full tank of gas and EASILY get 200 miles and STILL have plenty of gas in the tank to spare. It would take me roughly 3 hours (give or take). It would take your son 3 hours just to REFUEL, let alone actually get anywhere.
If you are experiencing far less charge time, then you're not charging up your battery very much.
Right, because it takes SOOOOOOOO damn LOOOOOOOOOONG to refuel an EV that one falls asleep while waiting for the damn thing to refuel. It's BOOOOOOOOOORING (and a waste of time) to just sit around waiting like that.
Yes, and actually refueling an EV from low to full is a 10 HOUR job. That's why it "charges at night as you sleep", as you often say.
Filling a gas tank is maybe a 2 minute commitment. Not very long at all. And that gets you right back on the road for another 300-400 miles (varies due to gas tank size, MPG, "bladder size", etc)
Right, and ICE owners do not notice public charging station prices.
Why do you suppose they ask you to charge in low-use periods? What do you suppose will happen as government keeps goading people into buying EVs and keeps pushing the "green energy" agenda (wind/solar power generation instead of coal/oil/natural gas/etc power generation)? Hint: higher demand for electricity, lower amount of electricity generated. Hint #2: California
"Advertised" is not 'actual'. You're still falling for the snake oil salesman mantra.
No it doesn't.
No you don't. You're essentially just driving an overweight ICE vehicle while pretending that you're somehow "saving the planet" by doing so. You're not holier than anyone else.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
...but... but Nordy is about to win a Silver trophy for my "THOOPER THMART PERTHUN AWARDTH" come Friday...
Unless somebody else can say something stupider before then...
Drive a Tesla and get back to us. Another thing EVs have is they are fun to drive.
Into the Night
Verified User
You are describing yourself, Sybil.
EV drivers are always worried about their next charge and where to get it.
Whoopie. My car has effectively infinite range, since it takes only minutes to refuel.
I already know you don't use your car much or even take care of it.
Maybe. Maybe people don't have a convenient garage to charge it in, and don't want to spend the extra money to install a charging outlet in the garage.
Then you wait hours.
Nope. I can refuel in minutes.
Which are heavily subsidized and mandated. Socialism doesn't work, Sybil.
Subsidy. So you make me pay for your charging.
Whoopie. My car has effectively infinite range since fueling takes only minutes.
Your gasoline car has only a 56 mile range???????!?
Into the Night
Verified User
He certainly does. That's why he likes gasoline cars, Sybil.
Into the Night
Verified User
I have driven a Tesla. They have poorer handling due to the extra weight of the battery. The vehicle weighs more than my truck!