Real Estate vs Stocks

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A certain member here who claims to have an MBA thinks stocks are always better than real estate.

That is simply not true. While stocks can sometimes give you a higher return, real estate is a solid investment. You can buy the land and any buildings on it and charge rent. That can provide more return than some stocks.
 
A certain member here who claims to have an MBA thinks stocks are always better than real estate.

That is simply not true. While stocks can sometimes give you a higher return, real estate is a solid investment. You can buy the land and any buildings on it and charge rent. That can provide more return than some stocks.

Thanks for yelling you are not rich
No show data that says long term real estate returns more than stocks
 
I am no business expert and can only speak from personal experience. Having flipped a few properties, I learned that you never buy during a housing boom but rather sell and then start from scratch. That is, if you have enough patience to wait. It worked for me.
What is most important ! never spend more than you can afford to lose! ! don't gamble and buy on a whim !
 
Real estate is a great JOB for millions especially if you don't want to go the college route!

It just does not measure up for retirement investing as compared to stocks.
 
A certain member here who claims to have an MBA thinks stocks are always better than real estate.

That is simply not true. While stocks can sometimes give you a higher return, real estate is a solid investment. You can buy the land and any buildings on it and charge rent. That can provide more return than some stocks.

You are 100% correct. The poster in question takes a very simplistic look at the comparison and only looks at capital appreciation.

To be fair it isn't easy to do a more robust comparison because much of the data needed isn't readily available.

Anyone who claims to be knowledgeable in finance knows that there is much more to an investment than capital appreciation. In fact the real reason people invested in stocks was to share in the profits aka dividends.

I would love to debate the resident Spicoli on this topic but I have realized I can expect nothing more engaging than his stock answers. He is very much like Desh in that regard. They sing from the same hymnal and never deviate.

For example here are few things that ole Topper is afraid to discuss or is just ignorant on

1) with real estate I can buy a $500,000 property with 20% down if I go conventional. I have even bought properties for ZERO down through owner financing
2) banks will lend you money to buy real estate, not so much for stocks. That alone should tell you something
3) real estate is inflation protected as I can (and do) raise rents every year. Inflation eats away at stock returns
4) even in a real estate downturn I am still collecting rents. In fact during economic downturns many more people turn to renting
5) despite Toppers claims of taking advantage of "tax shelters", I get REAL tax benefits that he can never get with stocks. Since I am run as an LLC working out of my home just about everything is an expense. I don't pay for my cell phone, Internet, gasoline, etc. Since my wife works for the business, we can expense dinners all we have to do is talk about the business for 20 seconds and it is all legit. We even keep notes in case the IRS comes knocking. We even write off vacations as business retreats. All legal. We write off season tickets to sporting events. All legal.

Now when you add all of this up, you get some tremendous advantages with real estate that you will never get with stocks

Now don't get me wrong. Real estate is hard. I made a lot of mistakes in the beginning. But I learned from them and I have amassed a nice nest egg for me and my family. I work a few hours a week and do what I want when I want. I am no Warren Buffett but I consider myself financially secure.

Now personally I have never gotten into the "stocks are better than real estate" argument. I believe that both are legitimate means of amassing wealth. Topspin however is very closed minded.

You see Topspin is nothing more than a bookkeeper who managed to land a job at a big oil company during the time when companies were very paternalistic. He went along with the program and eventually retired with a lump sum retirement from their pension. He essentially hit the lottery. Now I am not knocking it. I am merely explaining his psychology. It doesn't sound so sexy when he tells people on a message board that he was just a bookkeeper so he creates the MBA persona and tries to bill himself as some sort of Warren Buffett to make himself sound bigger than he is.
 
Than some stocks. Rofl
It's just embarrassing
Long term stocks do 8 percent
You will not find anything that says real estate does.
Real estate has great jobs for the non college worker
 
Than some stocks. Rofl
It's just embarrassing
Long term stocks do 8 percent
You will not find anything that says real estate does.
Real estate has great jobs for the non college worker

Just another Deshtard response Bookkeeper. I would expect more from one with an MBA
 
Just another Deshtard response Bookkeeper. I would expect more from one with an MBA

Well you are the demo I was talking about. Real estate is great for non college carpenter types.
Otherwise show me the data where real estate tops stocks long term.
It doesn't exist
Baldy
 
Well you are the demo I was talking about. Real estate is great for non college carpenter types.
Otherwise show me the data where real estate tops stocks long term.
It doesn't exist
Baldy

When did I say I never went to college? You may assume that if you choose. Short of mailing you copies of my diplomas there is no point. Suffice to say, you would be surprised at the degrees I hold. Yes, I said degrees.

As I pointed out, you are only looking at capital appreciation with regards to return. But there is so much more to it than that. If you refuse to see it because it would blow up your world view then so be it.

Here is a little tip so as not to confuse your tiny brain. I have never said real estate is for everyone. I have not said EVERYONE can get rich off of it. I have merely pointed out that it is a valid means of accumulating wealth if one puts in the time and effort.

I have not demeaned stock investing. Again it is a valid means of investing

But I realize that this has become a very big component of your self worth; this little world you have created for yourself where you are a big time investor making "Thousands of trades a year". I don't want to do anything to burst your illusions. If you are happy that is all that matters.

Here is where you copy and paste your stock answer.
 
Make no mistake, it is possible to lose money with real estate.
Stick with commercial. Residential is a constant headache.
 
Make no mistake, it is possible to lose money with real estate.
Stick with commercial. Residential is a constant headache.

Depending on how involved you want to get with your property commercial can be just as much work as residential. You are right though that you can lose money in real estate.
 
Depending on how involved you want to get with your property commercial can be just as much work as residential. You are right though that you can lose money in real estate.

It's work either way and headaches, just somewhat different ones. Would you rather talk to some yuppy screaming about the neighbors x 10 or 50 or more or a few bitch in that the dumpster is full ?
 
It's work either way and headaches, just somewhat different ones. Would you rather talk to some yuppy screaming about the neighbors x 10 or 50 or more or a few bitch in that the dumpster is full ?

I hear you. I own residential property and have gone months without hearing (any problems) from the tenants but I've gotten lucky in that regard.
 
Buying bonds is a way to accumulate wealth as well so are classic cars!
All I ever said was stocks earn the most by far of any asset class!
 
Yes that's true and rents are through the roof since nobody is buying houses.

Each market/sub market is different of course and at what rate you get in makes a huge difference in your overall success. Buying in 2009/2010 when the market was flooded with foreclosures has paid off nicely. Again depending on where you live has the market peaked today? Would you be buying at the top?
 
"It would perhaps be smarter, if wealth accumulation is your goal, to rent and put money in the stock market, which has historically shown much higher returns than the housing market," said Nobel Prize-winning economist Robert Shiller at a Standard and Poor's conference last week.
 
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