Rage on the Right
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Pentagon shooter a 9/11 truther, left wing nutjob....Spinning the incident to tie him with with the right, and when that was seen as obviously bogus, then just claiming he is mentally ill....
They got it half correct...he a mental case alright... and a leftie truther....I know thats redundant....
They got it half correct...he a mental case alright... and a leftie truther....I know thats redundant....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
when liberals start to equate the Tea Party with militias and white supremacists it's obvious they've chosen their "fear" target for the next election......watch for it.....
zappasguitar
Well-known member
If you want to put a friendly face on your group then get out locally and help in the local community. Volunteer at the local food bank.
You said on another thread you shot an interview with Glenn Beck so you've obviously got some media experience. Shoot some footage of your group helping the less fortunate and put together a press release touting your work. Send it to all the local TV stations.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
We DO a lot of public charity.
As for the Beck thing, it was a joke. I had it really planned something funny, but since I have to give it up now, it's pretty pointless.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Excellent. Then invest in some matching shirts with your groups name on them and a video camera with a stand, and shoot some footage of you guys handing food to the homeless, bagging sand druing a flood or something. Then get a member with a decent face or a girl with a rack like your avatar to be interviewed talking about you guys and cut togther a press release.
Editing software is CHEAP and even a nimrod like me can operate it so you shouldn't have a problem.
Hey, you could probably write off most of that at tax time as supplies.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
I'm not sure about the tax thing, but we'll see. Best do it in summer months though, when we have out community field days.
Socrtease
Verified User
And another article written by Cockburn (what an unfortunate last name) http://www.counterpunch.org/
All pointing some of the FALSE rage on the right.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
A lot of people tend to not read (or pretend not to read) all the posts on a thread, so I was just covering the bases.....but you I trust you get my point.
Taichiliberal
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
The ONLY people who are consistently harping about the gov't being the enemy to the point of paranoid hysteria (which may require armed resistance/revolution) are the teabaggers and their ilk....sentiments that can be found in the blatherings of certain neocon punditry. Couple this with the disasterous economy and never ending war/occupations and you jolly well will set off a myriad of nut jobs on either side of the political fence.
Taichiliberal
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Poor Freedumb....to stupid to actually debate the issue, to cowardly to directly respond when I proved him wrong earlier on the thread. So frustrated that I best him at every turn that all he can do is piggy back on the ignorant base snide remark of another poster and throw rocks. I pity them both.
Taichiliberal
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A lot of bluff and bluster on your part....but no direct logical rebuttal to the information provided from you or your like minded bretheren.
The information provided on this thread DOES NOT automatically state all militias are the same, and I defy you to point out were it does. That means your NOT repeating generalized supposition and conjecture that teabaggers and neocon punditry are so fond of substituting for facts and logic.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Excellent response, Zap. I find it interesting that folk on these boards are acting as if sex and crime have NEVER been big media news items. Bottom line: you got a bunch of teabagging yahoos at rallies carrying placards advocating violence if they don't like the laws, showing up strapped with guns and rifles, the neocon punditry railing about socialist takeover, and then they act like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths when valid documentations shows groups doing the same.
If you're a good guy and the bad guys are dirtying your name...take steps to stop it and stop whining about the "liberal media"...because that's not the problem.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
live with it, Touchie.....I'm not going to waste my time "rebutting" every idiotic thing some fucked up liberal decides to make up.....only the more extremely deranged liberals will even consider it credible to equate the Tea Party to militias......
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Just as I thought...you don't have the brains or the guts for an honest debate. Like the vast majority of neocon parrots and pundits, all you can do is squawk a lot of lies, distortions, propaganda and then repeat your dreck ad nauseum. Once again, you've earned the title of Post Modern Fool. You may prattle on!
http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/03/fearmongering-at-the-splc
But what really interests me is that alleged 244 percent jump. The American Spectator notes that many of the groups in the SPLC's count are basically innocuous, and that's certainly a point worth making. But there's another important question: To what extent does this increase in groups represent an actual increase in activists? Given the past year's surge in right-wing protest, I would expect the Patriot milieu to grow along with everything else. But I'd also expect a lot of those new bodies to get involved in more than one organization simultaneously. The SPLC's list includes militias, third parties, local chapters of the Oath Keepers and the John Birch Society -- there's plenty of room for overlap here. Note also that if a group splinters into two or more pieces, that probably indicates that it's getting weaker, but the faction fight will show up as growth if all you're counting is the number of organizations on the ground. So when the SPLC finds 15 chapters of six different militias in Indiana, does that mean more people want to join paramilitary organizations? Or does it mean the militiamen can't get along?
A group seriously interested in tracking the size and shape of these movements would take all those issues into account. But then, that would require you to have a goal more lofty than compiling your next scaremongering direct-mail campaign.
But what really interests me is that alleged 244 percent jump. The American Spectator notes that many of the groups in the SPLC's count are basically innocuous, and that's certainly a point worth making. But there's another important question: To what extent does this increase in groups represent an actual increase in activists? Given the past year's surge in right-wing protest, I would expect the Patriot milieu to grow along with everything else. But I'd also expect a lot of those new bodies to get involved in more than one organization simultaneously. The SPLC's list includes militias, third parties, local chapters of the Oath Keepers and the John Birch Society -- there's plenty of room for overlap here. Note also that if a group splinters into two or more pieces, that probably indicates that it's getting weaker, but the faction fight will show up as growth if all you're counting is the number of organizations on the ground. So when the SPLC finds 15 chapters of six different militias in Indiana, does that mean more people want to join paramilitary organizations? Or does it mean the militiamen can't get along?
A group seriously interested in tracking the size and shape of these movements would take all those issues into account. But then, that would require you to have a goal more lofty than compiling your next scaremongering direct-mail campaign.
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/default.htm
Where's the hate? This group is listed 48 times in the SPLC report. The only thing I can find that MIGHT be called hate is their demand that immigration laws be enforced.
I am for easing restrictions/regulations on immigration. I would like to see them to change the laws, but then enforce them. The current situation, existing laws that turn millions into illegals but that are not enforced, just makes everything worse It may be the worst of both worlds. It creates second class citizens.
While I might not agree with their view, I am not sure I would go so far as calling them a hate group. The SPLC implies these people are hell bent on starting a race war and/or trying to overthrow the government. That's absurd.
What is the point of the report? Does the SPLC want these people thrown in jail? Do they want a new COINTELPRO? No they are simply trying to smear. The SPLC's report is nothing but fear mongering and an attempt to dehumanize people that disagree with the SPLC's views.
Where's the hate? This group is listed 48 times in the SPLC report. The only thing I can find that MIGHT be called hate is their demand that immigration laws be enforced.
I am for easing restrictions/regulations on immigration. I would like to see them to change the laws, but then enforce them. The current situation, existing laws that turn millions into illegals but that are not enforced, just makes everything worse It may be the worst of both worlds. It creates second class citizens.
While I might not agree with their view, I am not sure I would go so far as calling them a hate group. The SPLC implies these people are hell bent on starting a race war and/or trying to overthrow the government. That's absurd.
What is the point of the report? Does the SPLC want these people thrown in jail? Do they want a new COINTELPRO? No they are simply trying to smear. The SPLC's report is nothing but fear mongering and an attempt to dehumanize people that disagree with the SPLC's views.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
the 'rage on the right' is a total misnomer that the left is trying to use to bolster its position for the next election. If they bothered to understand what TEA party, militia movement, and anything else currently mainstream anti government, they'd be shocked to discover that those groups are angry with both democrats and republicans.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Sorry, but the American Spectator is hardly impartial here, given it's hard right-wing bent, it's history or attacking Clinton with it's "Arkansas Project". David Brock blowing the whistle on them is a real eye opener.
Essentially, they bitch about the SPLC establishing links between groups of interest to law enforcement and the "innocuous" groups that have long advocated extreme right wing conservative philosophies. What pisses off conservatives is that they want their cake and to eat it also.....to just treat the racist crap like the John Birch Society historically advocated as a passing fancy and then wash their hands when groups like the Aryan Nation take it heart and act on it. It's not "fear mongering", but accurate reporting and correlations that's jeopardizes the attempts of such groups as teabaggers to "legitimize" themselves.