Racist statements lead lawmakers to reject John Wayne Day

Mott the Hoople said:
Oh well....I like the Duke's films but his activism in right wing politics during both the 50's red scare and during the Vietnam war hurt peoples careers and he was pretty hypocritical about it too. So this doesn't surprise me all that much.

I know I thought Michael Jordon, who has wisely avoided public political affiliations, when asked why he didn't do more for black Democrats said "Republicans buy sneakers too.". I've seen quite a few entertainers over the years alienate large numbers of fans by being politically active. Nataly Mains. Islam Yussaf, Babs, etc. John Wayne was certainly guilty of that too.
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I would rather watch paint dry, than watch most John Wayne movies.
 
NOVA said:
Is that why he is considered a racist ?

Guess we won't have a Bill Clinton Day either after he said “African Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do.” and lamenting to Ted Kennedy, "A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee."
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Hispanic isn't a race. Possibly it was his comments like this:

I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people ... I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from [the Native Americans] ... Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.[

And re: Clinton, the way I heard it was "A few years ago, he would have been carrying our bags." Maybe you can tell me which urban legend is actually true, bravs.
 
christiefan915 said:
Hispanic isn't a race. Possibly it was his comments like this:

I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people ... I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from [the Native Americans] ... Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.[

And re: Clinton, the way I heard it was "A few years ago, he would have been carrying our bags." Maybe you can tell me which urban legend is actually true, bravs.
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Nope, don't know.....but both convey the same sentiments....

Probably won't have a Hillary Clinton Day because in 2009, Clinton proudly accepted Planned Parenthood’s self-described “highest honor,” its coveted Sanger Award. She blushed and gushed that she was “in awe of” the racial eugenicist, and we all know what Sanger had to say about black people.

Funny...I searched both FactCheck and Snopes about these two topics and got nothing.....yet google had no problems.....
How do you do it.....
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes . . . will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." [Darwin, from The Descent of Man]

Well Mott, not only would I never make a statement such as Darwin made, I also don't believe it. I find it repugnant, in fact, do you?

The difference between myself and the self-righteous racialist moralizers that populate the left, is that I accept that Darwin and John Wayne were products of their time. I can consider their cultural contributions apart from their apparent racism.

Condemn one and condemn both. Or don't be surprised when someone points out the inconsistency.
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What complete nonsense. You can take any blurb out of context or through an anachronism and paint them to be a racist. Darwin was an abolitionist whose scientific work refuted the commonly held racist beliefs of his time and opposed already existing eugenic concepts. It is, in fact, evolution that overturned the widely held belief in the divine superiority of the "white race".

So-called "scientific racism" emerged around the same time that Darwin published his theory of evolution, but from a completely different group of people and for completely different reasons. In the mid-1800s both American slavery and European imperialism were coming under increasing criticism. During this time the idea of white supremacy became popular among those seeking to justify slavery and imperialism. Prior to Darwin, and after Darwin by opponents of evolution, biology was a theologically based field. The primary "scientific racists" were creationists who believed that science supported Biblical scripture, and that scripture supported slavery and the domination of one group over another.
 
NOVA said:
Nope, don't know.....but both convey the same sentiments....

Probably won't have a Hillary Clinton Day because in 2009, Clinton proudly accepted Planned Parenthood’s self-described “highest honor,” its coveted Sanger Award. She blushed and gushed that she was “in awe of” the racial eugenicist, and we all know what Sanger had to say about black people.

Funny...I searched both FactCheck and Snopes about these two topics and got nothing.....yet google had no problems.....
How do you do it.....
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It's allegation anyway.

New York: Former US President Bill Clinton had taken a racial jibe at Barack Obama in 2008, saying "this guy would have been carrying our bags", a report claimed on Monday.

Mr Clinton allegedly made the racially insensitive remark to Senator Ted Kennedy as he tried to convince the liberal to endorse his wife, Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama's rival, for the Democratic nomination, according to The New Yorker.

Only days before he will nominate President Obama for re-election in the November 6 presidential polls, the report claimed that in 2008 the former President had reportedly said: "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags."

The reported comment was similar to the one attributed to Mr Clinton in a 2010 book.

"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," Mr Clinton was quoted as saying in Game Change, by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin.

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bill...arks-about-barack-obama-in-2008-report-498484
 
christiefan915 said:
It's allegation anyway.

New York: Former US President Bill Clinton had taken a racial jibe at Barack Obama in 2008, saying "this guy would have been carrying our bags", a report claimed on Monday.

Mr Clinton allegedly made the racially insensitive remark to Senator Ted Kennedy as he tried to convince the liberal to endorse his wife, Hillary Clinton, Mr Obama's rival, for the Democratic nomination, according to The New Yorker.

Only days before he will nominate President Obama for re-election in the November 6 presidential polls, the report claimed that in 2008 the former President had reportedly said: "A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags."

The reported comment was similar to the one attributed to Mr Clinton in a 2010 book.

"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee," Mr Clinton was quoted as saying in Game Change, by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin.

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bill...arks-about-barack-obama-in-2008-report-498484
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Yeah....saw all of that...but nothing on FactCheck or Snopes.....interesting....

I figured New Delhi Television wasn't worth mentioning.....guess thats one of your reliable sources....
NY Post had it too....
http://nypost.com/2012/09/03/bill-clinton-made-insensitive-race-jab-about-obama-in-2008/
 
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