Racism: Failing now, failing tomorrow, failing forever

I've seen this discussion/debate multiple times among (black) friends I grew up with in Oakland. On one side you have those who they were moving the hell away from (the rough parts of) Oakland to better neighborhoods. On the other side are those who say they are staying in Oakland and want to be role models to kids in the neighborhood (essentially saying they want other kids to see 'normal' black two parent families in the neighborhood). It's an interesting debate and I understand both sides. I don't see any racism in it but I guess it's possible there is.
 
christiefan915 said:
High-poverty, majority-black and Hispanic schools were less likely to offer a full range of math and science courses than other schools, for example, and more likely to use expulsion and suspension as disciplinary tools, according to the GAO.
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Well, that proves some groups are inferior to others.
 
Legion Troll said:
It's never racism in your world, is it, lol?
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Have I ever said that? I called Texter Dude or whatever out on racism before. See, in my world, racism is charged only when the conclusion is inescapable. I'll even give the benefit of the doubt to people, because in my world, racism is a serious charge and not one that should be leveled lightly or to advance an agenda; or when it maybe-could be racism; or when it's maybe kinda/sorta racism if you turn your head a certain way and squint.

I save that sordid business for the racialist, hacks, lol. We all know who they are. You should learn better than to mess with me. I can do snark as well as anyone.
 
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christiefan915 said:
Doesn't "the white areas" strike you as being odd? What about the wealthy minorities, where do they live and how are their schools?
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No, it doesn't strike me at odd at all. I live in a wealthy white and Asian area and we have a very small black population. Rich black folk here live in the Oakland Hills. In LA they in Ladera Hills the "black Beverly Hills".
 
christiefan915 said:
Cultural identity? Pittsburgh's pretty diverse and we don't have areas strictly delineated toward different ethnicities, but there are several that are predominantly black.
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Is it racism then that certain areas have people from the same ethnicity living near each other?
 
cawacko said:
Is it racism then that certain areas have people from the same ethnicity living near each other?
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Nope. At least it's not neccessarily racism. It's neccessarily racism to the racialists.

If that's racism then all the minorities that tend to congregate together in their Little Italy's and what not, are racists. Same with Muslim communities.

It's only when whites do it. Double standard city.
 
christiefan915 said:
WASHINGTON — Poor, black and Hispanic children are becoming increasingly isolated from their white, affluent peers in the nation’s public schools, according to new federal data showing that the number of high-poverty schools serving primarily black and brown students more than doubled between 2001 and 2014.
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quick, everyone swallow the liberal government propaganda koolaid.
 
cawacko said:
No, it doesn't strike me at odd at all. I live in a wealthy white and Asian area and we have a very small black population. Rich black folk here live in the Oakland Hills. In LA they in Ladera Hills the "black Beverly Hills".
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This is exactly my point. Why aren't the wealthy blacks living along side the whites and Asians in your area? Or in the "white/Asian" areas of LA?

IMO it's because people look down on them in spite of their being wealthy and educated.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Nope. At least it's not neccessarily racism. It's neccessarily racism to the racialists.

If that's racism then all the minorities that tend to congregate together in their Little Italy's and what not, are racists. Same with Muslim communities.

It's only when whites do it. Double standard city.
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I don't think the word "racialist" means what you think it means.
 
christiefan915 said:
Using your previous examples of Oakland Hills and Ladera Hills, I have to ask myself why.
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The old story we used to hear about New York, "tell me a man's name and I'll tell you where he lives (which neighborhood)".

Why do people like living around others who are like them? Can be multiple reasons for that. There seems to be a Chinatown in most big cities, and a Japantown and a Koreatown. In Miami they have an area referred to as 'Little Havana'. I believe they also have a 'Little Haiti' neighborhood.

Is that all racism?
 
cawacko said:
The old story we used to hear about New York, "tell me a man's name and I'll tell you where he lives (which neighborhood)".

Why do people like living around others who are like them? Can be multiple reasons for that. There seems to be a Chinatown in most big cities, and a Japantown and a Koreatown. In Miami they have an area referred to as 'Little Havana'. I believe they also have a 'Little Haiti' neighborhood.

Is that all racism?
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The difference I see is that Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Cubans are all immigrants, but blacks are not.
 
christiefan915 said:
This is exactly my point. Why aren't the wealthy blacks living along side the whites and Asians in your area? Or in the "white/Asian" areas of LA?

IMO it's because people look down on them in spite of their being wealthy and educated.
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There are black people that live in Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Hollywood Hills etc. (wealthy areas that are largely white). Blacks just happen to make up a smaller percentage of the population and we all know about the wealth disparity.

I can't say I've heard any black folk say they wouldn't move to Beverly Hills because people there would look down upon them. I would imagine they like living around other black people. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing if that's what they desire.
 
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