Racial turn for abortion debate

Obama's not black, he's bi-racial. So already those people weren't sticking to the pure facts. If they're basing on his genetics the billboard certainly could go into a predominately white neighborhood.

I read your chart and agree with the ratio. However, going strictly by the numbers, most abortions are by white women.



Then the issue must be a little deeper than the billboard, right?

Just a backup link for you from the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6001a1.htm?s_cid=ss6001a1_w

Race
Among women from the 37 areas that reported race for 2007, white women (including Hispanic and non-Hispanic white women) accounted for the largest percentage (55.9%) of abortions; black women accounted for 36.5% and women of other racial groups for 7.6% of abortions (Table 12). Black women had higher abortion rates and ratios than white women and women of other races (Table 12). Among the 27 reporting areas that provided data every year during 1998--2007, the percentage distribution of abortions by race changed little; although abortions among women in the other racial category increased, the percentage remained low (Table 13). Abortion rates decreased during 2006--2007 among women from all racial groups, continuing the long-term decrease during 1998--2007 that had been interrupted by a 1-year increase during 2005--2006. However, because the increase in abortion rates during 2005--2006 had been much greater for white women (4%) than for black women (1%), the abortion rate was 2% higher for white women in 2007 than it had been in 2005 but 1% lower than it had been for black women. Abortion ratios also decreased during 2006--2007 among women from all racial groups, with a larger cumulative decrease during 2005--2007 among black women (7%) compared with white women (2%) (Table 13).

Race/Ethnicity
Among women from the 25 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2007 (Table 14), non-Hispanic white women accounted for the largest percentage of abortions (37.1%), followed by non-Hispanic black women (34.4%), Hispanic women (22.1%), and non-Hispanic women of other races (6.4%). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rates (8.5 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15--44 years) and ratios (144 abortions per 1,000 live births); in contrast, non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rates (32.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15--44 years) and ratios (480 abortions per 1,000 live births). Hispanic women had intermediate abortion rates and ratios; however, although Hispanic women had abortion rates that were 125% higher than non-Hispanic white women, their abortion ratios were only 34% higher. Because 2007 is the first year for which cross-classified race/ethnicity data have been compiled, trends over time could not be evaluated.

Ethnicity
Among the 33 areas that reported ethnicity for 2007, Hispanic women accounted for 19.8% of all abortions and had an abortion rate of 20.5 abortions per 1,000 Hispanic women; they had an abortion ratio of 193 abortions per 1,000 live births to Hispanic women (Table 15). These results are similar to those for Hispanic women who obtained abortions in the 25 reporting areas that provided cross-classified race/ethnicity data (Table 14). Among the 18 reporting areas that provided ethnicity data every year during 1998--2007, the percentage of abortions accounted for by Hispanic women increased 18% (Table 16). In contrast, during 2006--2007, abortion rates and ratios among Hispanic women decreased, continuing the pattern observed during 1998--2007, when the decrease in abortion rates and ratios was greater for Hispanic women than for non-Hispanic women of white, black, and other racial groups combined (Table 16).
 
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Obama's not black, he's bi-racial. So already those people weren't sticking to the pure facts. If they're basing on his genetics the billboard certainly could go into a predominately white neighborhood.

I read your chart and agree with the ratio. However, going strictly by the numbers, most abortions are by white women.

Since biologists and sociologists now deny that such a physical thing as race truly exists, its all a matter of appearance and culture, anyway. Specifically, whether that particular community identifies with Obama or not.
 
Obama's not black, he's bi-racial. So already those people weren't sticking to the pure facts. If they're basing on his genetics the billboard certainly could go into a predominately white neighborhood.

I read your chart and agree with the ratio. However, going strictly by the numbers, most abortions are by white women.

Yes technically he is bi-racial but has he ever been referred to as anything but black?
 
I see this as a positive message for people. I understand the abortion debate. I'm on the legal abortion side. It's a prohibition issue-- safer to allow and monitor

But you can't argue that humans who might have existed and done great things were kept from chance to exist. It's a choice that was made. We allowed it.

We will never know who we lost. Think about that.
 
I hope we aborted the guy who could have prevented the world from ending on 12/21/2012. That way, everything leftists have done to save the world will have been in vain. :cof1:
 
let me get this straight.....you are arguing that prohibiting abortions done for reasons of race is racist?......does that seem a little backward to anyone?.....
 
Obama's not black, he's bi-racial. So already those people weren't sticking to the pure facts. If they're basing on his genetics the billboard certainly could go into a predominately white neighborhood.

I read your chart and agree with the ratio. However, going strictly by the numbers, most abortions are by white women.

Give me a break. Yes, he is biracial.... thanks for that tidbit. The point was that an advertisement is going to target the market it is hitting. You were saying it was racist. It is not.

Yes, in terms of total numbers, more abortions are done by white women, because they make up a much larger portion of the countries demographics than white women. But that is not an apples to apples comparison. To get that, you do just as the census department did and compare the number of abortions per 1000 women in each category.
 
Whites have way more abortions in total. Only a racist piece of shit has no problem with this.

Because white people make up a far greater percentage of the demographics. Only an incompetent twit can't do the math to figure that out.

Tell us toppy.... would a racist be trying to STOP black people from aborting children or would a racist ENCOURAGE them to do so????
 
Because white people make up a far greater percentage of the demographics. Only an incompetent twit can't do the math to figure that out.

Tell us toppy.... would a racist be trying to STOP black people from aborting children or would a racist ENCOURAGE them to do so????

I would say an asshole like you is single because your bike seat has ruined your junk, and your an asshole.
Only a racist moron doesn't see the denegration of Obama by using the picture. Fucking klansman
 
let me get this straight.....you are arguing that prohibiting abortions done for reasons of race is racist?......does that seem a little backward to anyone?.....

You talkin' to me?

I'm not arguing anything about why abortions are done; I'm criticizing the organization for singling out black women with their ad.
 
Give me a break. Yes, he is biracial.... thanks for that tidbit. The point was that an advertisement is going to target the market it is hitting. You were saying it was racist. It is not.

Yes, in terms of total numbers, more abortions are done by white women, because they make up a much larger portion of the countries demographics than white women. But that is not an apples to apples comparison. To get that, you do just as the census department did and compare the number of abortions per 1000 women in each category.

When you can show me some billboards that spread the joy around by targeting Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, or any other racial/ethnic group in this country besides white, then I'll consider your argument. Just for the record, how many blacks live in AZ and TX compared to whites or Hispanics?

Let's see, Texas has 47.8% non-Hispanic white, 35.9% Hispanic or Latino, 11.5% black;

Arizona has 57.3% non-Hispanic white, population, 30.8% Hispanics and Latinos, 4.4% black;

Yet these two states somehow have the need to target black women about abortion, and I shouldn't see a racial element?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
 
I would say an asshole like you is single because your bike seat has ruined your junk, and your an asshole.
Only a racist moron doesn't see the denegration of Obama by using the picture. Fucking klansman

LMAO.... your jealousy of my being single is duly noted.

Again... would a racist be trying to STOP abortions among Blacks?

Why do you hate Black people Toppy?
 
When you can show me some billboards that spread the joy around by targeting Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, or any other racial/ethnic group in this country besides white, then I'll consider your argument. Just for the record, how many blacks live in AZ and TX compared to whites or Hispanics?

Let's see, Texas has 47.8% non-Hispanic white, 35.9% Hispanic or Latino, 11.5% black;

Arizona has 57.3% non-Hispanic white, population, 30.8% Hispanics and Latinos, 4.4% black;

Yet these two states somehow have the need to target black women about abortion, and I shouldn't see a racial element?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

Of course there is a racial element. The whole point is that a black woman is five times as likely to have an abortion as white woman and twice as likely as an Hispanic woman.

Does that not bother you?

Again, as I asked toppy, would a racist be trying to STOP abortions among black women?
 
LMAO.... your jealousy of my being single is duly noted.
not to worry" first don't ask don't tell, soon you and your bike boy will be able to marry
Again... would a racist be trying to STOP abortions among Blacks?
your a moron, using a black president in a mocking fashion by klansman is racist
Why do you hate Black people Toppy?
your response is as weak as your list of girlfriends
 
You talkin' to me?

I'm not arguing anything about why abortions are done; I'm criticizing the organization for singling out black women with their ad.

If a black woman is five times more likely than a white woman and two times more likely than an hispanic woman to have an abortion.... you think it is wrong for someone to try and point that out?

Again, do you really expect us to believe a racist would want to try and discourage abortions among black women?
 
your response is as weak as your list of girlfriends

says the litte man too afraid to answer the question and who instead tried to attack me based on one of the things I do for exercise.

Again toppy.... would a racist try and protect the life of a black child?
 
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