zappasguitar
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So a single mother of 4, who shoots an intruder, needs to be arrested and held until a judge determines that she was justified?
Typical bullshit USF non-sequiter.
So a single mother of 4, who shoots an intruder, needs to be arrested and held until a judge determines that she was justified?
And if Zimmerman would have done what he was supposed to do, according to neighborhood watch regulations, Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would not be on trial.
Zimmerman was the aggressor...Martin was fearful for his safety and confronted Zimmerman.
If he was so afraid for his safety, why didn't he call the cops? Why didn't he just run home? Why did he take so long to get home to begin with? Why did he choose to assault Zimmerman?
If you were a teenager and some strange adult was following you around, how would you react?
Are you saying you would confront him? You would assault him? Or would you run home? If I was scared for my safety, I would go straight home and tell my parents. Of course Trayvon's parents weren't together, but that is a different story altogether
The issue seems to be that you have it firmly planted in your head that Martin was a criminal, and in your mind..."innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to him.
You seem to have it firmly planted in your head that Zimmerman is a criminal, and in your mind ...... "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to him. Maybe you are racist against hispanics. Why? Did you lose your job to one?
Look, I don't think Zimmerman is a monster. I don't even think.he should be charged with murder. Zimmerman's crime is more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter. He should have stayed within the guidelines of the Neighborhood Watch program.
This is the kind of thing that happens when a person pushes the boundaries of their authority.
So the favorite meme of the left (I say left as this case seems to be falling on political lines) is that Zimmerman should have just gone home. Now, to be fair there is an argument for that and one could ask Zimmerman why he didn't do just that.
But, the question is never asked, "Why didn't Martin just go home?". He supposedly only went out in the rain to get some "skittle and a drink". The facts show that even at a moderate pace, it should not have taken him that long.
But, if this big bad "white hispanic" was "stalking" poor, young, innocent Trayvon who just wanted skittles, why didn't he just go home? Now of course we can't ask Trayvon, but the self professed thinkers don't seem to want to ask that question.
No, these so called purveyors of truth seem to only want to believe the best of Trayvon and the worst of Zimmerman. Maybe the lefties hate "white hispanics"?
OPINION
Make no mistake, the left including Obama are salivating for a race riot. They would like nothing better than to gin up racial strife heading into the mid term elections and nothing would serve their cause than an acquittal of Zimmerman. If Zimmerman is acquitted, you will immediately see Trayvon's parents trotted out claiming that "It feels like he has been shot all over again" and of course the testimony of the prosecutions "star witness" will be deemed "RACIST" and lest we forget that the jury is a bunch of evil WHITE women who are skeered of some black man.
Typical bullshit USF non-sequiter.
If that sums up Grind's position, then this must mean that you can show where Zimmerman yelled derogatory insults at Martin or proof that he grabbed him.
But then; you, I, and everyone else knows you can't.![]()
If zimmerman believed he had a reasonable fear of great bodily injury (you know, like getting your head bashed in) he has a right to self defense, even if he follow trayvon, even if he asked trayvon what was up, even if he said "what the fuck are you doing here you asshole" even if he grabbed travyon but then made an effort to retreat.
Care to show the guide lines that forbid him from trying to gather information for the responding Police?And if Zimmerman would have done what he was supposed to do, according to neighborhood watch regulations, Martin would be alive and Zimmerman would not be on trial.
Talk to any lawyer or Police Officer and they will tell you that even if you consider the person to be a threat; that once you leave you remove the immediate threat and if you then return and approach them, you are now the aggressor.Zimmerman was the aggressor...Martin was fearful for his safety and confronted Zimmerman.
Probably go home and tell someone what happened; unless I was a thug and decided that I could "handle" this by myself.If you were a teenager and some strange adult was following you around, how would you react?
What I have firmly planted in my head; is that no one and I mean NO ONE has all information and that the left are the ones who decided that Zimmerman was guilty, no matter what.The issue seems to be that you have it firmly planted in your head that Martin was a criminal, and in your mind..."innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to him.
And why manslaughter?Look, I don't think Zimmerman is a monster. I don't even think.he should be charged with murder. Zimmerman's crime is more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter. He should have stayed within the guidelines of the Neighborhood Watch program.
You must be referring to the boundries of the authority that the left feel they have the absolute right of.This is the kind of thing that happens when a person pushes the boundaries of their authority.
and you're a totaly hypocrite for saying such when you demand that police do the same damn thing.You can always tell from STY's opening sentence just how pissed off he is...the more petty vulgarity...the angrier he is.
And as usual, STY ignores what I said in order to make up whatever bullshit he'd like to THINK I said.
I stated brandishing a gun to settle a fight is a sign of cowardice...settling the fight with your fists is a much braver way of settling a conflict.
So the favorite meme of the left (I say left as this case seems to be falling on political lines) is that Zimmerman should have just gone home. Now, to be fair there is an argument for that and one could ask Zimmerman why he didn't do just that.
But, the question is never asked, "Why didn't Martin just go home?". He supposedly only went out in the rain to get some "skittle and a drink". The facts show that even at a moderate pace, it should not have taken him that long.
But, if this big bad "white hispanic" was "stalking" poor, young, innocent Trayvon who just wanted skittles, why didn't he just go home? Now of course we can't ask Trayvon, but the self professed thinkers don't seem to want to ask that question.
No, these so called purveyors of truth seem to only want to believe the best of Trayvon and the worst of Zimmerman. Maybe the lefties hate "white hispanics"?
OPINION
Make no mistake, the left including Obama are salivating for a race riot. They would like nothing better than to gin up racial strife heading into the mid term elections and nothing would serve their cause than an acquittal of Zimmerman. If Zimmerman is acquitted, you will immediately see Trayvon's parents trotted out claiming that "It feels like he has been shot all over again" and of course the testimony of the prosecutions "star witness" will be deemed "RACIST" and lest we forget that the jury is a bunch of evil WHITE women who are skeered of some black man.
and you're a totaly hypocrite for saying such when you demand that police do the same damn thing.
You neve met Dixie, have you Tekky?
I have demanded that the police settle all conflicts with a fistfight?
You truly are full of it...you can't keep your bullshit straight anymore.
you go with that. you know the bullshit you've said. you just don't have the decency to be embarrassed about it.
So you admit I never made any such claim...it's about time.
As long as you plan on incorrectly posting what you THINK I said, I'm going to be right here pointing out your bullshit.
So following someone is grounds to be attacked?
you're a lying douchebag fucktard. I believe you were the one that stated that bullying people around with your fists makes you a man, but carrying a gun makes you a bully. unless you're a cop, of course, because that magic badge changes your status. you are the perfect liberal anti gun hypocrite.
Yes Grind, that is the issue. That's why millions of people were outraged. You're argument is childish. Certainly self defense is a valid defense. In Florida so is "Stand your ground' but it isn't the police or DA's place to let a person who just took another human beings life walk scott free with no consequences because they have a valid defense. Having a valid defense does not mean that one is either guilty or innocent and it's painfully obvious that YOU JUST DON'T GET THAT! LOL
Teeny tiny ones.LOL and then he has to the balls to say we're biased and he's not. I'll give Grind this. He's got balls! LOL
Dixie was awesome. Started more 500 post threats than any JPP member by a long shot. Dixie has a staggering degee of willfull ignorance combined with an enourmous talent for the fine art of ranting. He is hugely entertaining.Never did; before my time!
You're expecting reasonable from USF and STY??!! Good luck with that!Any reasonable person should expect that pursuing someone after they have fled from you is likely to provoke a confrontation.
You're expecting reasonable from USF and STY??!! Good luck with that!![]()