Question: What happened to the Epstein files?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

By the 19th Century most European Monarchies had retreated to parliamentary systems. This was driven mostly by the American and French revolutions. Even the nations not directly involved were swayed by these uprisings to loosening the grip of the Monarchy. Social structures were challenged as early as the 13th century with the Magna Carta. By the 19th century Western Monarchies were a shell of earlier times.

King George the I of England lost the absolute grip on property with the rise of the East India Company - that demanded sovereign control of their own property in the mid-17th century. The Empire depended on the EIC to fuel the empire and capitulated to the rising corporation. This was the beginning of actual private property in England, and later Britain.

I guess you completely forgot where this started. Monarchists on the American continent happened in the late 18th century. As you point out the Magna Carta occurred in the 13th century. (The House of Commons was created in the early 14th century.) Monarchists in the Americas didn't think that monarchs owned all the land. Your argument is based on your delusions as you yourself has just shown us by admitting that the Magna Carta changed social structures. It's almost like you have a 12 year old's version of what history is.

I'm curious why you think you are clever? The role of peasant and landlord was critical to the feudal society. Land grants flowed from the Monarchy to various Nobles - as previously explained who had a host of underlings who then had landlords that directly oversaw the peasants below them.

The nobility could seize the lands at will should a particularly landlord displease them. The Crown likewise could and did seize lands from Nobles as the Crown saw fit - for any or no reason. The enlightenment and the age of reason of the 17th century saw the rise of property rights and individual rights as a cause - leading to the American ideals and the offspring of that in France.

Remember, Socialism is simply Feudalism rebranded to appeal to the stupid.

It seems you think you are clever by telling me about peasant and landlord after I asked you about gutsherschaft. What you don't seem to understand is different monarchies had different systems. The Franks (Germans) had the monarch elected by the nobles in the 10th century. In most monarchies the kings rarely had the power you think they did. They were beholden to the landowners (nobility) for their power. But all of that is not relevant to the Monarchists that supported George III in 1773.

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[IBDaMann]

Congress didn't release DoJ records.

Maybe we need to start at the beginning. Do you know what Congress is?

Congress released emails they obtained from the Epstein estate.

Good. Good. What else did Congress order be released?

... Larry Summers is the most prominent name other than Donald Trump.

... in the emails. Good. Thank you for confirming my other posts.

Now, what about the other records Congress ordered be released?

 

[IBDaMann]

... the kings rarely had the power you think they did

... except for when they did.

They were beholden to the landowners (nobility) for their power

... except those kings who made landowners through his power of granting land.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Maybe we need to start at the beginning. Do you know what Congress is?


Good. Good. What else did Congress order be released?

They passed a law signed by the President that requires the DoJ files on Epstein to be released within 30 days of the law being passed. That 30 days is not yet up and no documents have been released by the DoJ.

... in the emails. Good. Thank you for confirming my other posts.

Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

Now, what about the other records Congress ordered be released?

You mean the ones that have NOT yet been released?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

... except for when they did.

You seem to be confused about set theory. All kings in Europe are not the same set as the kings that you are referring to.

... except those kings who made landowners through his power of granting land.

Which were not all European kings. How many kings do you think were able to grant land in 1773? Was it all European kings? Or was it very few European kings?

 

[IBDaMann]

They passed a law signed by the President that requires the DoJ files on Epstein to be released within 30 days of the law being passed.

Let's take a brief meander through the Socratic method:

* Case 1. Assume, hypothetically, that Congress had ordered the DoJ to produce the Loch Ness monster within 30 days, and assume further that the DoJ didn't produce any within that time period. What should Congress do to get satisfaction for the people?

* Case 2. Assume, hypothetically, that Congress had ordered the DoJ to produce the "Epstein File" hoax fabricated by the DNC, and assume further that the DoJ didn't produce any within that time period. What should Congress do to get satisfaction for the people?

That 30 days is not yet up and no [hoax has ] been released by the DoJ.

FTFY. Good. Good.

Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

Thanks for confirming that you are a total genius, and that now we are both liars.

You mean the ones that have NOT yet been released?

Yes, you may expand that set to include all hoaxes.

 

[IBDaMann]

You seem to be confused about set theory.

Not I. You seem to be lacking in English comprehension.

All kings in Europe are not the same set as the kings that you are referring to.

You seem to not understand to whom I am referring.

Which were not all European kings.

Exactly, i.e. only some European kings. Would you like a refresher on set theory?

How many kings do you think were able to grant land in 1773?

Most of them, i.e. >50%

Was it all European kings? Or was it very few European kings?

Most of them, i.e. >50%

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Let's take a brief meander through the Socratic method:

* Case 1. Assume, hypothetically, that Congress had ordered the DoJ to produce the Loch Ness monster within 30 days, and assume further that the DoJ didn't produce any within that time period. What should Congress do to get satisfaction for the people?

* Case 2. Assume, hypothetically, that Congress had ordered the DoJ to produce the "Epstein File" hoax fabricated by the DNC, and assume further that the DoJ didn't produce any within that time period. What should Congress do to get satisfaction for the people?

OK. Let's take that trip. Assume IBDaMann is so stupid that he doesn't realize that the only way someone can be prosecuted is if the government actually has evidence. What happens when Congress tells the DoJ to make that evidence public? Does it make IBDaMann seem even stupider?

FTFY. Good. Good.


Thanks for confirming that you are a total genius, and that now we are both liars.


Yes, you may expand that set to include all hoaxes.

It must be hard when your brain is a null set.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Not I. You seem to be lacking in English comprehension.

Do you always drive yourself off the rails when you aren't staying on topic?

You seem to not understand to whom I am referring.

You seem to want to change the subject from what it was to the idiocy you want to discuss.

Exactly, i.e. only some European kings. Would you like a refresher on set theory?

Which kings could do that in 1773?
I look forward to you actually providing some facts to support your allegations.

Most of them, i.e. >50%

Name them.

Most of them, i.e. >50%

Name them.

 

[Into the Night]

I suspect your "guess" is clouded by your continuing desire to devalue the left as much and as often as possible.

He doesn't have to. The left devalues itself quite well enough!

..something I also suspect is happening because you see the pile of garbage the American right has become.

Inversion fallacy.

Keep at it, TA. You sometimes help causes I favor by your comments.

Assumption of victory fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Um the same could be said about the hysteria over Obama and Biden.

Stone. Glass house.

FTFY

 

[Into the Night]

They passed a law signed by the President that requires the DoJ files on Epstein to be released within 30 days of the law being passed. That 30 days is not yet up and no documents have been released by the DoJ.

Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

You mean the ones that have NOT yet been released?

What 'Epstein Files', Poorboy?

 

[Into the Night]

OK. Let's take that trip. Assume IBDaMann is so stupid that he doesn't realize that the only way someone can be prosecuted is if the government actually has evidence. What happens when Congress tells the DoJ to make that evidence public? Does it make IBDaMann seem even stupider?

It must be hard when your brain is a null set.

Do you know what Congress is? What 'evidence' are you discussing here?

 

[Into the Night]

Do you always drive yourself off the rails when you aren't staying on topic?

You don't have a topic. Do you know what 'topic' means? Go learn English.

You seem to want to change the subject from what it was to the idiocy you want to discuss.

You don't have a topic.

Which kings could do that in 1773?

Any.

I look forward to you actually providing some facts to support your allegations.

RQAA

Name them.

Name them.

Any king.

 

[IBDaMann]

OK. Let's take that trip. Assume IBDaMann [realizes] that the only way someone can be prosecuted is if the government actually has evidence. What happens when Congress tells the DoJ to make [a hoax] public? [How long will it be before @Poor Richard Saunders is crying like a baby that the DoJ hasn't produced the Hoax?]

FTFY. The correct answer is that @Poor Richard Saunders will be crying and griping and sniveling loudly the first opportunity presented.

You still haven't answered the question as to how you expect a hoax to be produced.

 

[Maze]

New files being released soon. Magats are going to love it.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

FTFY. The correct answer is that @Poor Richard Saunders will be crying and griping and sniveling loudly the first opportunity presented.

You still haven't answered the question as to how you expect a hoax to be produced.

Epstein was indicted and jailed and Maxwell was convicted based on a hoax?
The stupidity of IBDaMann seems to know no depths.

 

[Hawkeye10]

New files being released soon. Magats are going to love it.

The Epstein intel/blackmail program went after people of every political stripe.

 

[Taichiliberal]

The Epstein files seem to have nearly vanished as a topic in the news, and here, just a week or so after their release. Now everything is "Trump is issuing illegal orders to the military!" hysteria on the Left. What happened? I thought the Epstein files were going to 'finish Trump' and put him in prison for pedophilia or something.

But now? It's "Trump is issuing illegal orders to the military!" I guess the Epstein files turned out to be a nothing burger for the Left, so they've moved on to the next shiny object...

Are you paying you enough to be this stupid?

Any news coverage priority is based on what actions occur. The Epstein estate released the information that has Dump and his minions scrambling, then your hero Kegs-breath orders the murder of potential prisoners (but to date NO EVIDENCE has been given that they were drug traffickers in the first place) a'la the mandate from the Orange Oaf.

But don't fret. The legal machinations regarding the Epstein files is on-going. Military actions that result in fatal actions kind of take the headlines ("if it bleeds, it leads).

The "left" didn't cause the issues, you simpleton. Given how the MSM coverage has been severely diluted over the years, it's a miracle (IMHO) that decent coverage is given at all.

So if you have a problem with the current administration's actions, blame them. No one put a gun to their heads to enact all the BS they do.

 

[IBDaMann]

Name them.

Here's how we will play this:

1. You will list all the European kings in existence in 1773 (without omitting any).
2. You will explain how each one did not have the power to grant land.
3. I will rebut.