Question regarding Arizona shooting.

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

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What's the law in Pima regarding citizens carrying weapons openly (with permit) or CCWP?

And why is the neocon radio bullhorn's losing their minds over the Sheriff simply stating the obvious, since he didn't mention anyone person or political affiliate specifically?
 
Taichiliberal said:
What's the law in Pima regarding citizens carrying weapons openly (with permit) or CCWP?

And why is the neocon radio bullhorn's losing their minds over the Sheriff simply stating the obvious, since he didn't mention anyone person or political affiliate specifically?
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All of AZ is open carry and just recently allowed CCW with no card necessary.
 
Damocles said:
What are you talking about? I haven't seen one mention of the Sheriff anywhere.
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You need to either change your newspapers or switch to a different radio/TV channel.


Enter "Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik" into google, and you'll see what I mean.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
What's the law in Pima regarding citizens carrying weapons openly (with permit) or CCWP?

And why is the neocon radio bullhorn's losing their minds over the Sheriff simply stating the obvious, since he didn't mention anyone person or political affiliate specifically?
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USFREEDOM911 said:
All of AZ is open carry and just recently allowed CCW with no card necessary.
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Interesting, because NRA members and gun right advocates for years have been declaring that with open carry and CCW there would be less violent crime.

Well, I guess this incident pretty much puts a crimp in that argument.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Interesting, because NRA members and gun right advocates for years have been declaring that with open carry and CCW there would be less violent crime.

Well, I guess this incident pretty much puts a crimp in that argument.
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Yeah, one incident definitely disproves the entire argument. That's reason enough to prevent anyone from carrying in public - or possibly even owning any guns at all. I'm certain if open carry were illegal in AZ, the perpetrator in this case would have obeyed the law.

:rolleyes:
 
Taichiliberal said:
Interesting, because NRA members and gun right advocates for years have been declaring that with open carry and CCW there would be less violent crime.

Well, I guess this incident pretty much puts a crimp in that argument.
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How the fuck does your limited cognitive ability arrive at the conclusion that this incident means that violent crime ISN'T lessening?
 
Voltaire said:
Yeah, one incident definitely disproves the entire argument. That's reason enough to prevent anyone from carrying in public - or possibly even owning any guns at all. I'm certain if open carry were illegal in AZ, the perpetrator in this case would have obeyed the law.

:rolleyes:
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Does this mean that since people are still dying in car accidents, that the push to have passengers wear seatbelts means that the seatbelt campaign has failed?
 
Arizona requires no license for CC.

But, the shooter could've easily illegally conceal carried, or even just gone out and gotten a license. Despite the fact that his behavior was so erratic that it caused him to get ejected from college (until he got a note from a mental health professional stating that he wasn't a danger to anyone), he was never institutionalized.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Interesting, because NRA members and gun right advocates for years have been declaring that with open carry and CCW there would be less violent crime.

Well, I guess this incident pretty much puts a crimp in that argument.
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Really? You think one shooting crimps the argument concerning a nation of 300 million people?
 
yeah cause there is only one nutbag shooting.
Riech-winger team leader Palin puts target on Liberal, liberal is shot.
It's called tactics and execution.
 
Topspin said:
yeah cause there is only one nutbag shooting.
Riech-winger team leader Palin puts target on Liberal, liberal is shot.
It's called tactics and execution.
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Topper, it only shows that if you look at the most superficial bits of the story. Otherwise its just bullshit.
 
For all the apologists, can you tell us why this nut didn't shoot a florist?


"The main hypothesis concerning group-think is this: the more amiability and espirt de corps among the members of an in-group of policymakers the greater the danger that independent critical thinking will be replaced by groupthink, which is likely to result in irrational and the dehumanizing actions directed at out-groups." Irving L. Janis 'Sanctions for Evil'


"We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen
http://fora.tv/2010/03/11/Sam_Keen_In_The_Absence_of_God
 
midcan5 said:
For all the apologists, can you tell us why this nut didn't shoot a florist?


"The main hypothesis concerning group-think is this: the more amiability and espirt de corps among the members of an in-group of policymakers the greater the danger that independent critical thinking will be replaced by groupthink, which is likely to result in irrational and the dehumanizing actions directed at out-groups." Irving L. Janis 'Sanctions for Evil'


"We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen
http://fora.tv/2010/03/11/Sam_Keen_In_The_Absence_of_God
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What? Why didn't he shoot a florist?

Because he was paranoid and delusional and blamed the gov't?
 
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