Quadrupling Carbon Dioxide Would Cause Only 1°C Warming According To New Study

Happens frequently with Primavera. Don't take it personally. He's groaned more posts of mine than he realizes.

Maybe this is like Argentina running submarines....If you cant do it with same minimum level of competence, I mean if you just cant do it right at all, then dont do it at all.
 
Maybe this is like Argentina running submarines....If you cant do it with same minimum level of competence, I mean if you just cant do it right at all, then dont do it at all.

I only feel rewarded when a half dozed or more thanked a post of mine. Means I struck a nerve.
 
The airlines claim generally that masks serve no purpose on airplanes.

I would like to see their argument, maybe they are right, the government lies to us constantly.

It's pretty simple. You are wearing a mask that really isn't up to blocking a virus. You are probably wearing it badly. You are in an airplane for hours packed in with others breathing recycled air. Now, it might help if you were properly wearing an N95 mask, or one that used in part activated charcoal and had fresh filters but the little cloth ones everybody's wearing are basically useless.
 
It's pretty simple. You are wearing a mask that really isn't up to blocking a virus. You are probably wearing it badly. You are in an airplane for hours packed in with others breathing recycled air. Now, it might help if you were properly wearing an N95 mask, or one that used in part activated charcoal and had fresh filters but the little cloth ones everybody's wearing are basically useless.

What they say is that they move so much air and their filters are so good that there is no issue.

In the age of OMICRON I find that hard to believe, but then too Geert just said again that Omicron is a blessing, it trains our immune systems and we desperately need that because it increasingly looking like with this deeply idiotic MAX VAX PROGRAM we might have screwed the pooch....this bug might kill a shit ton of people one day.

Geert says that it is essential to continue to expose ourselves with these lightweight SARS-COV2 versions, in case the superheavyweight huge killer version comes one day.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolid...-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron
 
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Personally?
I think the 'fighting global warming' stick shift has been jammed into neutral.

The left is convinced of one thing.
The right is convinced of the other.
And neither is going to budge without HARD proof.

Not a bunch of scientists spewing forth data.
Or giant chunks of ice in Greenland falling into the ocean.
Or calling every weather pattern as proof of one side or the other.

The OP is fine.
Thanks for posting it.

But for every 'fine' study that says 'all is well'.
There is a 'fine' study that says that 'the sky is falling'.

So - IMO - until we see low lying civilizations start to submerge en masse?
NOTHING of significance will be done.
For better or worse.


Of course?
The left will scream that by then it will be too late.
And the right will scream that there is no global warming.

But it's too late now.
Both sides are too entrenched to move.

So...all we can do now is sit back and wait.

And see whom was right.
 
What they say is that they move so much air and their filters are so good that there is no issue.

In the age of OMICRON I find that hard to believe, but then too Geert just said again that Omicron is a blessing, it trains our immune systems and we desperately need that because it increasingly looking like with this deeply idiotic MAX VAX PROGRAM we might have screwed the pooch....this bug might kill a shit ton of people one day.

Geert says that it is essential to continue to expose ourselves with these lightweight SARS-COV2 versions, in case the superheavyweight huge killer version comes one day.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolid...-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron

It's probably truer than not. If they were using a combination of electronic air cleaning and activated charcoal as the filtration means, that would take virtually everything out of the air including like 99% + of viruses. Of course, if you were sitting next to someone with active Fauci plague, you're probably susceptible in any case, mask or not unless you are again, wearing one that is orders of magnitude better than some little piece of ill-fitting cloth crap.
 
It's probably truer than not. If they were using a combination of electronic air cleaning and activated charcoal as the filtration means, that would take virtually everything out of the air including like 99% + of viruses. Of course, if you were sitting next to someone with active Fauci plague, you're probably susceptible in any case, mask or not unless you are again, wearing one that is orders of magnitude better than some little piece of ill-fitting cloth crap.

RE that I long ago heard about a study about the first SARS....this is with the planes of the day which I have heard many times had HVAC systems that were much inferior to what modern ones can do. Now keep in mind the modern ones are set to be less good than they could be to save fuel aka money that can go for profits. But. Then and with that bug we think it did transmit 2 rows back and three forwards and they also said how many left and right. They were pretty confident that they were right too.

NOTE: Airlines claim to have their systems turned up to max, fuck the money.

That may or may not be true, we get lied to constantly.
 
What they say is that they move so much air and their filters are so good that there is no issue.

In the age of OMICRON I find that hard to believe, but then too Geert just said again that Omicron is a blessing, it trains our immune systems and we desperately need that because it increasingly looking like with this deeply idiotic MAX VAX PROGRAM we might have screwed the pooch....this bug might kill a shit ton of people one day.

Geert says that it is essential to continue to expose ourselves with these lightweight SARS-COV2 versions, in case the superheavyweight huge killer version comes one day.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolid...-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron

The A350 and B787 use advanced cabin technology to delivers high air quality – renewing the air every two-to-three minutes, and precisely controlling temperature and humidity.
 
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There is no climate crisis says a new study published in the International Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences.

The study Citation:

David Coe, Walter Fabinski, Gerhard Wiegleb, The Impact of CO2, H2O and Other “Greenhouse Gases” on Equilibrium Earth Temperatures, International Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences. Vol. 5, No. 2, 2021, pp. 29-40. doi: 10.11648/j.ijaos.20210502.12.

You can read the abstract and download the complete paper here. http://www.ijaos.org/article/298/10.11648.j.ijaos.20210502.12

From the paper: “It has long been accepted that the ‘greenhouse effect’, where the atmosphere readily transmits short wavelength incoming solar radiation but selectively absorbs long wavelength outgoing radiation emitted by the earth, is responsible for warming the earth from the 255°K effective earth temperature, without atmospheric warming, to the current average temperature of 288°K.” Of the 33°K warming, the authors conclude that water vapor (H2O) is responsible for 29.4°K , with carbon dioxide (CO2) contributing 3.3°K, and methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O) combined just 0.3°K. This result, the authors say, strongly suggests that increasing levels of CO2 will not lead to significant changes in Earth’s temperature and that increases in CH4 and N2O will have a very little discernable impact. A four-fold increase in CO2 concentrations to 1,600 ppm will increase temperatures by 1°C and it would take around 800 hundred years to reach that point at the current rate of CO2 level increases.

The authors conclude:

“There is, and never can be, a tipping point. As the concentrations of greenhouse gases increase, the temperature sensitivity to those increases becomes smaller and smaller. The Earth’s atmosphere is a near perfect example of a stable system.”

“The atmosphere, mainly due to the beneficial characteristics and impact of H2O absorption spectra, proves to be a highly stable moderator of global temperatures. There is no impending climate emergency and CO2 is not the control parameter of global temperatures, that accolade falls to H2O. CO2 is simply the supporter of life on this planet as a result of the miracle of photosynthesis.”

Bottom line: This study, and other studies, show that carbon dioxide has an insignificant effect on global temperature. Therefore all efforts to reduce carbon dioxide emissions and achieve “net-zero” will not stop climate change and are just very expensive and futile exercises.
I wish you would post some of this on Debate Politics
I can read it but i cant defend the science -beyond my ability
 
These things happened not because of any government mandates but simply because they made both economic and technological sense. If the market had been left alone, the world would undoubtedly be running on nuclear. Nuclear is unquestionably the safest, cheapest, and cleanest type of mass power generation. This isn’t the time to go into the numerous reasons that’s true. But if nuclear had been left unregulated, we’d already be using small, self-contained, fifth-generation thorium reactors, generating power almost too cheap to meter. The world would already be running on truly clean green electricity.

Instead, time, capital, and brainpower have been massively diverted to so-called “ecological” power sources—mainly wind and solar—strictly for ideological reasons. The powers that be want to transition the whole world to phony green energy, like it or not.

I’m all for green energy in principle. There’s no question that solar and wind are worthwhile and effective for select applications—generally small, isolated, special locations where conventional fuel is inconvenient or too costly. The efficiency of solar has been tremendously improved over the last few decades, as has wind efficiency. But neither make any sense for mass base-load power in industrial economies.
 
What they say is that they move so much air and their filters are so good that there is no issue.

In the age of OMICRON I find that hard to believe, but then too Geert just said again that Omicron is a blessing, it trains our immune systems and we desperately need that because it increasingly looking like with this deeply idiotic MAX VAX PROGRAM we might have screwed the pooch....this bug might kill a shit ton of people one day.

Geert says that it is essential to continue to expose ourselves with these lightweight SARS-COV2 versions, in case the superheavyweight huge killer version comes one day.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolid...-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron
commercial airplanes change air about 15x an hour
 
Wait, you do DP?
where do you think i've been?
cant get any decent discussion going on here with the trolls and fights
I come here for a few of you - including you and MOOSE and Primavera,, maybe a couple more
but it's point;es to try to continue a discussion
 
where do you think i've been?
cant get any decent discussion going on here with the trolls and fights
I come here for a few of you - including you and MOOSE and Primavera,, maybe a couple more
but it's point;es to try to continue a discussion

Has DP improved?
 
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