Putin wrote and perfected Trump’s political playbook 15 years ago

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I defy anybody to say they aren't brothers from different mothers. :D

"He has pledged to make his country great again. He says the unsayable, breaking taboos to the delight of his audience. He promises to free the country from an Islamic threat. He has no regard for truth, and fumes at the media, whom he considers lying scum. He plays to the crowds and portrays himself as an ordinary guy, but has a weakness for palaces and female models. European leaders cringe at his sexist jokes. When he emerged as a presidential candidate, the liberals who opposed him took comfort in the fact he would be restrained by the free media, civil society and the legislature, and were proved wrong.

No, he is not Donald Trump, but Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia since 2000. Of course, the similarity between the two men should not be stretched too far: One is an ex-KGB man with deeply ingrained conspiratorial mentality, anointed by his predecessor and backed by Russia’s oligarchs, while the other is an oligarch himself, riding a wave of anti-establishment sentiment.

Well before Trump appeared on the political scene, Putin had turned saying the unsayable into an art form. His emergence as a presidential candidate in 1999 was greeted with incredulity by the media and political experts. His initial support rating barely registered in opinion polls. But following the bombing of several apartment blocks in Moscow in 1999 he pledged on television to catch Chechen terrorists and “wipe them out [while they sat] in the shitter.” Instantly, it broke the barrier between the public and the future president. Sociologists described it as a short-circuit moment.

It is their shared love of doing “deals,” however, that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. Unlike any of his Soviet predecessors, who were guided by ideology, Putin is the flesh and blood of 1990s capitalism in Russia, where informal “deals” trampled any kind of legal arrangement. It is their shared love of doing “deals” that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. The ability to strike a deal with his opponents, with the media, and with foreign counterparts is the essence of Putin’s regime.

But as the 20th-century history of the Soviet Union and Germany showed, a pact between two populist and nationalist leaders hardly makes the world a safer place. If Trump becomes president, the last thing the world needs, dark humor aside, is for he and Putin to be locked in any kind of embrace.

http://qz.com/725392/vladimir-putin-wrote-donald-trumps-political-playbook-15-years-ago/
 
I defy anybody to say they aren't brothers from different mothers. :D

"He has pledged to make his country great again. He says the unsayable, breaking taboos to the delight of his audience. He promises to free the country from an Islamic threat. He has no regard for truth, and fumes at the media, whom he considers lying scum. He plays to the crowds and portrays himself as an ordinary guy, but has a weakness for palaces and female models. European leaders cringe at his sexist jokes. When he emerged as a presidential candidate, the liberals who opposed him took comfort in the fact he would be restrained by the free media, civil society and the legislature, and were proved wrong.

No, he is not Donald Trump, but Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia since 2000. Of course, the similarity between the two men should not be stretched too far: One is an ex-KGB man with deeply ingrained conspiratorial mentality, anointed by his predecessor and backed by Russia’s oligarchs, while the other is an oligarch himself, riding a wave of anti-establishment sentiment.

Well before Trump appeared on the political scene, Putin had turned saying the unsayable into an art form. His emergence as a presidential candidate in 1999 was greeted with incredulity by the media and political experts. His initial support rating barely registered in opinion polls. But following the bombing of several apartment blocks in Moscow in 1999 he pledged on television to catch Chechen terrorists and “wipe them out [while they sat] in the shitter.” Instantly, it broke the barrier between the public and the future president. Sociologists described it as a short-circuit moment.

It is their shared love of doing “deals,” however, that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. Unlike any of his Soviet predecessors, who were guided by ideology, Putin is the flesh and blood of 1990s capitalism in Russia, where informal “deals” trampled any kind of legal arrangement. It is their shared love of doing “deals” that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. The ability to strike a deal with his opponents, with the media, and with foreign counterparts is the essence of Putin’s regime.

But as the 20th-century history of the Soviet Union and Germany showed, a pact between two populist and nationalist leaders hardly makes the world a safer place. If Trump becomes president, the last thing the world needs, dark humor aside, is for he and Putin to be locked in any kind of embrace.

http://qz.com/725392/vladimir-putin-wrote-donald-trumps-political-playbook-15-years-ago/

It is one thing I would like to see, dueling egos! Can you imagine a meeting between these two super egos!
 
Putin and Trump would have a much better relationship then Obama and Putin.
Obama takes his being out maneuvered on the international chessboard personally -calling Putin's "bad boy slouch" as a reason he can't keep up.

Putin knows how to gambit, and better his position, Trump knows that too - but Trump is easily assuaged by ego stroking -
and Putin is already setting that up.

We could use a Putin in realpolitik
 
I defy anybody to say they aren't brothers from different mothers. :D

"He has pledged to make his country great again. He says the unsayable, breaking taboos to the delight of his audience. He promises to free the country from an Islamic threat. He has no regard for truth, and fumes at the media, whom he considers lying scum. He plays to the crowds and portrays himself as an ordinary guy, but has a weakness for palaces and female models. European leaders cringe at his sexist jokes. When he emerged as a presidential candidate, the liberals who opposed him took comfort in the fact he would be restrained by the free media, civil society and the legislature, and were proved wrong.

No, he is not Donald Trump, but Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia since 2000. Of course, the similarity between the two men should not be stretched too far: One is an ex-KGB man with deeply ingrained conspiratorial mentality, anointed by his predecessor and backed by Russia’s oligarchs, while the other is an oligarch himself, riding a wave of anti-establishment sentiment.

Well before Trump appeared on the political scene, Putin had turned saying the unsayable into an art form. His emergence as a presidential candidate in 1999 was greeted with incredulity by the media and political experts. His initial support rating barely registered in opinion polls. But following the bombing of several apartment blocks in Moscow in 1999 he pledged on television to catch Chechen terrorists and “wipe them out [while they sat] in the shitter.” Instantly, it broke the barrier between the public and the future president. Sociologists described it as a short-circuit moment.

It is their shared love of doing “deals,” however, that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. Unlike any of his Soviet predecessors, who were guided by ideology, Putin is the flesh and blood of 1990s capitalism in Russia, where informal “deals” trampled any kind of legal arrangement. It is their shared love of doing “deals” that makes Putin and Trump’s convergence so alarming. The ability to strike a deal with his opponents, with the media, and with foreign counterparts is the essence of Putin’s regime.

But as the 20th-century history of the Soviet Union and Germany showed, a pact between two populist and nationalist leaders hardly makes the world a safer place. If Trump becomes president, the last thing the world needs, dark humor aside, is for he and Putin to be locked in any kind of embrace.

http://qz.com/725392/vladimir-putin-wrote-donald-trumps-political-playbook-15-years-ago/

TROLLING AGAIN ?
What utter bullshit.

 
Putin and Trump would have a much better relationship then Obama and Putin.
Obama takes his being out maneuvered on the international chessboard personally -calling Putin's "bad boy slouch" as a reason he can't keep up.

Putin knows how to gambit, and better his position, Trump knows that too - but Trump is easily assuaged by ego stroking -
and Putin is already setting that up.

We could use a Putin in realpolitik
You are an idiot, I am sorry, if you think Putin is the type of leader needed in the USA. dear goddess
 
You are an idiot, I am sorry, if you think Putin is the type of leader needed in the USA. dear goddess
We could use a Putin in realpolitik
I guess you don't do nuance. :rolleyes:
Putin is a master at international politics.
Despise him for what he is ( playing to old tsarism) - but recognize his talents.
 
I guess you don't do nuance. :rolleyes:
Putin is a master at international politics.
Despise him for what he is ( playing to old tsarism) - but recognize his talents.

Didn't bush once look into his eyes and see his soul? And then Putin screwed him.
 
I guess you don't do nuance. :rolleyes:
Putin is a master at international politics.
Despise him for what he is ( playing to old tsarism) - but recognize his talents.

Telling a pinhead liberal to 'recognize someone's talents' ? Not possible.

These are the people to think Hillary Clinton has talents
 
I guess you don't do nuance. :rolleyes:
Putin is a master at international politics.
Despise him for what he is ( playing to old tsarism) - but recognize his talents.

Annatta it is genuinely hard to tell your nuance from your other thoughts.
 
No

....ever hear of the The Ukrainian territory of Crimea .......thats what getting screwed looks like.....

“I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy,” Bush said in remarks he later regretted. “. . . I was able to get a sense of his soul.”
 
Annatta it is genuinely hard to tell your nuance from your other thoughts.
that's understandable. text is limited communication, it's why I wouldn't use it with my last g/f in Tampa.
I didn't help though..lol :)
 
“I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy,” Bush said in remarks he later regretted. “. . . I was able to get a sense of his soul.”
Shrub didn't get around much outside of Texas. Putin has the soul of a cobra
 
Bravs? Still think I'm trolling? Putin has journalists killed so that makes him a "leader."

Donald Trump hesitated on Friday to criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin for allegations the Kremlin has killed high-profile journalists critical of the leader, saying "our country does plenty of killing also."
During an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Trump expanded upon his welcoming of praise from Putin, remarking that “when people call you brilliant, it’s always good, especially when the person heads up Russia.”

Co-host Joe Scarborough then asked Trump what he thought about the number of high-profile murders of journalists who have been critical of Putin. “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader, you know unlike what we have in this country,” Trump responded.
 
Even Mitt rebuked Trump for praising a thug.

Mitt Romney, who was outspoken during the 2012 campaign about the threat Russia posed to the United States, implicitly rebuked Trump on Twitter later in the morning.

"Important distinction: thug Putin kills journalists and opponents; our presidents kill terrorists and enemy combatants," the former Republican nominee tweeted Friday, following Trump's repeated praise of the Russian president's strength, despite his condemnation of his alleged ordered killing of his political and media opponents.

 
Even Mitt rebuked Trump for praising a thug.

Mitt Romney, who was outspoken during the 2012 campaign about the threat Russia posed to the United States, implicitly rebuked Trump on Twitter later in the morning.

"Important distinction: thug Putin kills journalists and opponents; our presidents kill terrorists and enemy combatants," the former Republican nominee tweeted Friday, following Trump's repeated praise of the Russian president's strength, despite his condemnation of his alleged ordered killing of his political and media opponents.


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