Putin has now lost two of his allies

anonymoose said:
Maduro and Khameni.
And not a thing he can do about since he’s preoccupied in his quagmire.
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News Flash - it's looking like Khameni's son is going to be taking his father's place and like his father, he's known to be a hard liner. Possibly even moreso.

So, if a few months from now Iran is being ruled by an even more iron fist ...

Way to go, trumpanyahu. 👍🏼
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course you do. You're a MAGAt.
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According to you. That doesn’t make me one.
Dutch Uncle said:
Now Trump is talking about boots on the ground in Iran.
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I haven’t seen that but I’d strongly disagree with that.
Dutch Uncle said:
Do you really think this will be over in a week? A month?
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I have no clue . Like I said , that’s part of Trump’s strategy IMO, keep his ultimate intentions vague on purpose.

I hope it is, but the pain is going to last the rest of the year.
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It will be far more painful for the Iranian regime , no doubt.
 
Nomad said:
News Flash - it's looking like Khameni's son is going to be taking his father's place and like his father, he's known to be a hard liner. Possibly even moreso.

So, if a few months from now Iran is being ruled by an even more iron fist ...

Way to go, trumpanyahu.👍🏼
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Then he has 72 virgins to look forward to in the near future unless he moderates.
 
anonymoose said:
According to you. That doesn’t make me one.

I haven’t seen that but I’d strongly disagree with that.

I have no clue . Like I said , that’s part of Trump’s strategy IMO, keep his ultimate intentions vague on purpose.


It will be far more painful for the Iranian regime , no doubt.
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If it walks like a MAGAt and talks like a MAGAt, it's a good bet it's a MAGAt.
 
anonymoose said:
According to you. That doesn’t make me one.

I haven’t seen that but I’d strongly disagree with that.

I have no clue . Like I said , that’s part of Trump’s strategy IMO, keep his ultimate intentions vague on purpose.


It will be far more painful for the Iranian regime , no doubt.
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Trump does not have well thought out strategies.

He is happy to bully as long as he thinks he is getting away with it and looking strong and believes it is getting any public support.

But the minute it goes bad or loses support due to the $1B a day cost or more lost US lives, he will find any excuse to back out while claiming a victory such as 'this time we annihilated their nuclear ambitions... which is so much better than our prior obliteration'.
 
QP! said:
Trump does not have well thought out strategies.
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Who has had well thought out strategies?
QP! said:
He is happy to bully as long as he thinks he is getting away with it and looking strong
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Agreed.
QP! said:
and believes it is getting any public support.
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He doesn’t seem to care much about public support. Some, but not the overriding factor

QP! said:
But the minute it goes bad or loses support due to the $1B a day cost or more lost US lives, he will find any excuse to back out while claiming a victory such as 'this time we annihilated their nuclear ambitions... which is so much better than our prior obliteration'.
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No doubt. He’ll declare success regardless
 
anonymoose said:
Who has had well thought out strategies?

Agreed.

He doesn’t seem to care much about public support. Some, but not the overriding factor


No doubt. He’ll declare success regardless
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"... that’s part of Trump’s strategy IMO, keep his ultimate intentions vague on purpose...."

My point being Trump does not have a strategy to "keep it vague on purpose". It is vague as Trump has no real strategy other than to try and bully, and see how it goes and adjust depending on feedback. Same he tried with the law firms before backing off. Same he tried with the late night comedians before backing off. Universities, etc.

His first instinct is to go on the attack with all the force the US puts behind him and see how much fight the opponent has in them. If they do fight, and especially if it seems public support is with them and not him, then he backs away while claiming some big success.
 
QP! said:
"... that’s part of Trump’s strategy IMO, keep his ultimate intentions vague on purpose...."

My point being Trump does not have a strategy to "keep it vague on purpose".
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You don’t know that. It’s just an opinion.
I have mine.

and adjust depending on feedback.
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Agreed.
Same he tried with the law firms before backing off. Same he tried with the late night comedians before backing off. Universities, etc.
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If I remember correctly he got something from all that.
That’s what one does in negotiations. You never get your initial offer.
QP! said:
His first instinct is to go on the attack with all the force the US puts behind him and see how much fight the opponent has in them. If they do fight, and especially if it seems public support is with them and not him, then he backs away while claiming some big success.
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I don’t disagree with that, but sometimes he gets more than he would if he didn’t go on the attack initially.
It does look like he’s backed off getting Greenland for now.
 
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anonymoose said:
You don’t know that. It’s just an opinion.
I have mine.


Agreed.

If I remember correctly he got something from all that.
That’s what one does in negotiations. You never get your initial offer.

I don’t disagree with that, but sometimes he gets more than he would if he didn’t go on the attack initially.
It does look like he’s backed off getting Greenland for now.
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He did not really get anything but the ego rush of weaponizing the the US gov't might behind him as he bullied.

ya from a few big corporations looking at M&A transactions where he could cost them billions they paid a few million in frivolous personal suits to try and smooth things out but that is not really a win of any consequence. It is just an adult bullying a baby in a crib when they see a massive power imbalance and no ability to fight back.

What is the point beyond the person being egotistic and willing to grift in that way?
 
Jake Starkey said:
Wanted to make sure. And you don't understand logic.

You have committed "A bare assertion fallacy happens when someone states a conclusion
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You really don’t know what agnostic means do you? No conclusion stated.
Jake Starkey said:
without offering any supporting argument, evidence, or reasoning."

Examples:
  • “God cannot exist.”
  • “There is no way God exists.”
  • “It’s impossible for God to exist.”
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I didn’t say that. ^. I’m an I-don’t-knower.
Jake Starkey said:
If no argument is given, it’s simply an unsupported claim — a bare assertion.
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The only claim I made is that I’m agnostic. For you to claim I’m otherwise is an assertion fallacy.
 
anonymoose said:
You really don’t know what agnostic means do you? No conclusion stated.

I didn’t say that. ^. I’m an I-don’t-knower.

The only claim I made is that I’m agnostic. For you to claim I’m otherwise is an assertion fallacy.
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I did not claim you were atheist or agnostic. I claimed your assertion was your conclusion without any evidence.

Please accept your education humbly and stop whining.
 
Jake Starkey said:
I did not claim you were atheist or agnostic. I claimed your assertion was your conclusion without any evidence.
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I made no conclusion. Religious beliefs are just that… beliefs.
If you believe your god is gender fluid, who am I to argue against that?
I don’t care if you believe your god is Zeus and he’s a transgender. Or the Easter bunny for that matter.
 
You said there was no God. That is a conclusion.

You dropped this, "Please accept your education humbly and stop whining."

That is known as 'dirty deleting.' You are looking worse every post.
 
Jake Starkey said:
You said there was no God. That is a conclusion.

You dropped this, "Please accept your education humbly and stop whining."

That is known as 'dirty deleting.' You are looking worse every post.
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I get it now. You’re APL’s sock. Classic circular argument fallacy is his trademark.
 
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