Punishments in Isis and a regular Islamic country
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Probably the biggest distinction between the two is that Isis is expansionist whereas Islamic countries are more or less content to keep sharia between their borders.
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Can you tell me about any other religion that would tell its followers that it is their duty to rape and kill this woman and her family?
GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Mona Walter is on a mission. Her mission is for more Muslims to know what is in the Koran. She says if more Muslims knew what was in the Koran, more would leave Islam. Walter came to Sweden from Somalia as a war refugee when she was 19. She says she was excited about joining a modern European nation with equal rights for women. But as a young Muslim woman, that was not the Sweden she encountered.
A Real Introduction to Islam
It was in Sweden that she first experienced radical Islam on a daily basis. "I discovered Islam first in Sweden. In Somalia, you're just a Muslim, without knowing the Koran. But then you come to Sweden and you go to mosque and there is the Koran, so you have to cover yourself and you have to be a good Muslim."
Walter says she grew up in Somalia never having read the Koran. "I didn't know what I was a part of. I didn't know who Mohammed was. I didn't know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed," she recalled.
GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Mona Walter is on a mission. Her mission is for more Muslims to know what is in the Koran. She says if more Muslims knew what was in the Koran, more would leave Islam. Walter came to Sweden from Somalia as a war refugee when she was 19. She says she was excited about joining a modern European nation with equal rights for women. But as a young Muslim woman, that was not the Sweden she encountered.
A Real Introduction to Islam
It was in Sweden that she first experienced radical Islam on a daily basis. "I discovered Islam first in Sweden. In Somalia, you're just a Muslim, without knowing the Koran. But then you come to Sweden and you go to mosque and there is the Koran, so you have to cover yourself and you have to be a good Muslim." Walter says she grew up in Somalia never having read the Koran. "I didn't know what I was a part of. I didn't know who Mohammed was. I didn't know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed," she recalled. And it was in Sweden that Walters says she discovered Allah is a god who hates, and that Islam is not a religion of peace. "It's about hating and killing those who disagree with Islam. It's about conquering. Mohammed, he was immoral. He was a bloodthirsty man. He was terrible man, and Muslims can read that in his biography -- what he did to Jews, how he raped women, how he killed people. I mean, he killed everyone who didn't agree with him," she explained. Discouraged, Walter left Islam and became an atheist, until one day a family member encouraged her to read the Bible. She still remembers the first time she read Matthew 5:44, where Jesus said to "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Christianity, a New Perspective
"It was very strange for me to 'love your enemy,' because in Islam it is 'kill your enemy.' 'Kill your enemy and anyone who refuses Islam.' But Jesus Christ was all about love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance, and for some reason, I needed that," she said. She went to see Pastor Fouad Rasho of Angered Alliance Church, a Syrian immigrant who ministers to former Muslims in Sweden. "She started to believe and she came to me. And that was the beginning of her trusting," he said. When she accepted Christ, Walter said she felt "so happy" and "filled with joy. Walter says the Lord gave her a burden for Muslims who still do not know the truth about Islam. And she began to study the Koran, and began copying verses from the Koran and handing them out on the street to Muslim women.
Rescuing Muslims with Truth
"Sometimes they listen and sometimes they become very upset, and I tell them, 'You know your husband has a right to beat you if you don't obey him?' And they say 'No, It does not say that.' 'Yes, it does say that.' I thought if I tell them about Muhammed and about the Koran and about this god of Islam who hates, who kills, who discriminates against women, maybe they will have a choice and leave," she explained. But in politically correct Sweden, Walter has come under attack for simply repeating what is in the Koran. "I've been called an 'Islamophobe,' and yeah [they tell me], 'You've been bought,' 'You're a house nigger,' and stuff like that, terrible things, " she said. She has also been called a racist. Walter warns that Islamic radicalism is a serious threat in Sweden, and says Swedish society should care more about women trapped in Islam. "[Swedes] will think, 'Oh, we're in Sweden; we have freedom of religion,' but Muslim women don't have freedom of religion. They live under the law of Allah, not under Swedish law. So they will suppose everyone has freedom of religion. We don't have freedom of religion. It's not for Muslim women. It's for everyone else," Walter argued.
Walter lives under death threats and sometimes travels with police protection. She wanted to show us Muslim areas around Gothenburg, but had to first dress as a Muslim. She believes if she were to show her face, she would be attacked. "I can never go to those areas just being me, flesh and blood Mona. I would never get out of there alive," she said. "I mean, Muslims are normally good people like everyone else," she continued. "But then when they read the Koran, then they become a killing machine." "This so-called ISIS or el Shabab or Boko Haram, they're not like extremists. They're not fanatical. They're just good Muslims, good Muslims who follow the teachings of Islam. The prophet Mohammed, he did that. They're doing what he did," she explained. Walter now uses videos and speaking appearances to spread her message. And she says she won't stop, even though her life is in danger.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/April/Ex-Muslim-Koran-Revealed-a-Religion-I-Did-Not-Like
GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Mona Walter is on a mission. Her mission is for more Muslims to know what is in the Koran. She says if more Muslims knew what was in the Koran, more would leave Islam. Walter came to Sweden from Somalia as a war refugee when she was 19. She says she was excited about joining a modern European nation with equal rights for women. But as a young Muslim woman, that was not the Sweden she encountered.
A Real Introduction to Islam
It was in Sweden that she first experienced radical Islam on a daily basis. "I discovered Islam first in Sweden. In Somalia, you're just a Muslim, without knowing the Koran. But then you come to Sweden and you go to mosque and there is the Koran, so you have to cover yourself and you have to be a good Muslim."
Walter says she grew up in Somalia never having read the Koran. "I didn't know what I was a part of. I didn't know who Mohammed was. I didn't know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed," she recalled.
GOTHENBURG, Sweden -- Mona Walter is on a mission. Her mission is for more Muslims to know what is in the Koran. She says if more Muslims knew what was in the Koran, more would leave Islam. Walter came to Sweden from Somalia as a war refugee when she was 19. She says she was excited about joining a modern European nation with equal rights for women. But as a young Muslim woman, that was not the Sweden she encountered.
A Real Introduction to Islam
It was in Sweden that she first experienced radical Islam on a daily basis. "I discovered Islam first in Sweden. In Somalia, you're just a Muslim, without knowing the Koran. But then you come to Sweden and you go to mosque and there is the Koran, so you have to cover yourself and you have to be a good Muslim." Walter says she grew up in Somalia never having read the Koran. "I didn't know what I was a part of. I didn't know who Mohammed was. I didn't know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed," she recalled. And it was in Sweden that Walters says she discovered Allah is a god who hates, and that Islam is not a religion of peace. "It's about hating and killing those who disagree with Islam. It's about conquering. Mohammed, he was immoral. He was a bloodthirsty man. He was terrible man, and Muslims can read that in his biography -- what he did to Jews, how he raped women, how he killed people. I mean, he killed everyone who didn't agree with him," she explained. Discouraged, Walter left Islam and became an atheist, until one day a family member encouraged her to read the Bible. She still remembers the first time she read Matthew 5:44, where Jesus said to "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Christianity, a New Perspective
"It was very strange for me to 'love your enemy,' because in Islam it is 'kill your enemy.' 'Kill your enemy and anyone who refuses Islam.' But Jesus Christ was all about love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance, and for some reason, I needed that," she said. She went to see Pastor Fouad Rasho of Angered Alliance Church, a Syrian immigrant who ministers to former Muslims in Sweden. "She started to believe and she came to me. And that was the beginning of her trusting," he said. When she accepted Christ, Walter said she felt "so happy" and "filled with joy. Walter says the Lord gave her a burden for Muslims who still do not know the truth about Islam. And she began to study the Koran, and began copying verses from the Koran and handing them out on the street to Muslim women.
Rescuing Muslims with Truth
"Sometimes they listen and sometimes they become very upset, and I tell them, 'You know your husband has a right to beat you if you don't obey him?' And they say 'No, It does not say that.' 'Yes, it does say that.' I thought if I tell them about Muhammed and about the Koran and about this god of Islam who hates, who kills, who discriminates against women, maybe they will have a choice and leave," she explained. But in politically correct Sweden, Walter has come under attack for simply repeating what is in the Koran. "I've been called an 'Islamophobe,' and yeah [they tell me], 'You've been bought,' 'You're a house nigger,' and stuff like that, terrible things, " she said. She has also been called a racist. Walter warns that Islamic radicalism is a serious threat in Sweden, and says Swedish society should care more about women trapped in Islam. "[Swedes] will think, 'Oh, we're in Sweden; we have freedom of religion,' but Muslim women don't have freedom of religion. They live under the law of Allah, not under Swedish law. So they will suppose everyone has freedom of religion. We don't have freedom of religion. It's not for Muslim women. It's for everyone else," Walter argued.
Walter lives under death threats and sometimes travels with police protection. She wanted to show us Muslim areas around Gothenburg, but had to first dress as a Muslim. She believes if she were to show her face, she would be attacked. "I can never go to those areas just being me, flesh and blood Mona. I would never get out of there alive," she said. "I mean, Muslims are normally good people like everyone else," she continued. "But then when they read the Koran, then they become a killing machine." "This so-called ISIS or el Shabab or Boko Haram, they're not like extremists. They're not fanatical. They're just good Muslims, good Muslims who follow the teachings of Islam. The prophet Mohammed, he did that. They're doing what he did," she explained. Walter now uses videos and speaking appearances to spread her message. And she says she won't stop, even though her life is in danger.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2015/April/Ex-Muslim-Koran-Revealed-a-Religion-I-Did-Not-Like
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whats the difference between Isis and one of these moderate muslims?
answer: Isis has a different flag
moon
Satire for Sanity
Other religions are probably not aware of this particular person and the extremism of other religions, neoZionist extremism for example, is not covered by your query. NeoZionist extremists, for example, burn Palestinian children alive. The neoZionist state injects poison into its opposition in foreign countries and blasts civilians by the thousands, including women and children, because their opposition refuses to capitulate. It specializes in collective punishments.
This poor unfortunate woman has fallen foul of extremists and deserves protection. Let's see you offer protection to the victims of neoZionist extremism- or shut your racist trap.
They are the same religion, but the punishments are not the same. ISIS is salafi interpretation
Blaspheme in Saudi Arabia and you will probably get caned( flogged) in public. That is takfir -a death sentence by ISIS.
Homosexuality gets you thrown off a building tied to a chair in Raqqa, Syria. Alcohol gets you whipped , adultery gets you stoned (etc)
ISIS in Mosul banned smoking and lighting up is punishable with a fine or broken finger. Selling cigarettes can be a death sentence.
Blaspheme in Saudi Arabia and you will probably get caned( flogged) in public. That is takfir -a death sentence by ISIS.
Homosexuality gets you thrown off a building tied to a chair in Raqqa, Syria. Alcohol gets you whipped , adultery gets you stoned (etc)
ISIS in Mosul banned smoking and lighting up is punishable with a fine or broken finger. Selling cigarettes can be a death sentence.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Yeah- Eric Garner got choked to death for that.
chart says that for blasphemy and homosexuality the punishment is the same in both.
Difference is that they do this because they view themselves at war with the people throwing bombs into their country.
ISIS and other muslim countries kill homesexuals because its just another tuesday.
moon
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Now you know that's not going to happen, don't you sonny? I am not in the least racist but you most certainly are and an apologist to boot. Can you point to anywhere in Judaism or indeed Zionism that says you must kill any Jew that attempts to leave the faith or indeed speaks out about the inherent violence of the Torah as you have with Islam?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Again, you attempt to narrow the frame in order to suit your conditioning. Rabbis in Israel preach the killing of all non-Jewish babies. For sure, they are brought to book on occasions- but that's because the world is watching.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/08/02/israeli-rabbi-preaches-quot-slaughter-quot-of-gentile-babies/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_violence
And yes, you are racist. Also xenophobic and Islamophobic.
Of course, the brutality of some forms of Jewish extremism does NOT serve as an excuse for the misinterpretation of the Qu'ran by some Islamists. Now let's see you condemn Jewish extremism with the same gusto you reserve for Muslims. Asshole.
but it's not..the "chart" is Sharia as taken from the Quran text. Just like there are different interpretation of Xtianity ; there are different interpretations in Islam
You can think of ISIS as "fundamentalist" in the extreme ( correct term is Sunni Salafists ) - but the PRACTICE is far from the same.
ISIS blows up gravestones, whereas Islam does not use grave markers ( etc.) but doesn't blow them up ( idolatry)
seems like both of them ISIS and Saudi arabia have the same punishment for nearly everything.
well there are similarities too - stealing can get your hand cut off,but it's not enforced to the extent by ISIS.
no 2nd chances by ISIS.
From what I know one would have to be a recidivist to get the hand chopped of in SA..
It is the depth of extremism that is different -as well as SA has courts, but SA can be brutal too.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
You ever notice none of the JPP liberals start threads on Middle East gays being thrown off buildings...but when the gay wedding cake doesn't get baked it causes five threads lol.
Go figure.
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Thanks to leftist zealotry.