Psychopathy:where is it concentrated in society

[Sammy Jankis]

Why do you think it’s grandiose to care about people



It’s a natural state for millions and millions of Americans


We care

And we will sacrifice for others


It’s how society survives


Most humans are mostly good


They care about others and will often place the needs of others over their own needs


It’s a good trait


Nearly all humans admire those who do care


Why do you claim it’s rare?


Why do you say it’s grandiosity Matty the murderer?

you are a psychopath in denial.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Not these days

ok, #1 psychopath.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Caring about others is common dude


Only a sick mind would call it grandiose


Virtue signaling is an fools phrase to demean acting virtuously


Sociopaths and psychopaths think displaying morals is stupid


They can’t understand why most humans display virtuous behavior

Fail bot fails

what is virtuous?

morally barren legalism is morally barren.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Low fear?


They want to be feared

It’s a great tool to manipulate the world to get what they want

like get jabbed or lose all freedoms?

you're the terrorists.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The only way you see humans

No crap like this you try to tell me registers dick lick

I know who I am


I’m not troubled by these types of insults heaved at me


They ring no pavlofs dogs bell inside me


Meaningless and ineffective


Evil can’t reach decent people this way

Sorry

Your a loser

 

[evince]

what is virtuous?

morally barren legalism is morally barren.

A typo

 

[Sammy Jankis]

A typo

objection, nonresponsive.

 

[evince]

That man is 1000 times the human being you are

 

[Sammy Jankis]

That man is 1000 times the human being you are

see, you're a psychopathic control freak who dehumanizes others.

 

[Walt]

don't forget politicians. quite psychopathic.

I doubt it. Politicians have another problem, they are off the charts narcissists. It is important for many politicians to be empathetic, which is hard for a psychopath to mimic. There are a few, but not the huge number you would think.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I doubt it. Politicians have another problem, they are off the charts narcissists. It is important for many politicians to be empathetic, which is hard for a psychopath to mimic. There are a few, but not the huge number you would think.

psychopaths can use empathy to understand how to manipulate people.

 

[Walt]

psychopaths can use empathy to understand how to manipulate people.

They can mimic empathy to try to manipulate people, but they cannot use it, because they lack it.

Politicians are some of the best at showing empathy, and that would be difficult if they lacked it. There are definitely some psychopaths in politics, but it is a difficult long term career for psychopaths. Having to spend decades guessing at empathy, the vast majority would fail badly.

Politicians definitely have off the charts problems with narcissism. That would be the tell tale psychological problem of a politician.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The problem with Evince's argument here is that it is very much cherry picked to make a Definist fallacy. That is, it is set up to argue that psychopathy is always a bad trait and undesirable in society while those who are more emotive, feeling, and therefore--without any proof or backing--somehow "better" people. One might infer from the examples given in his posts, that by extension Progressives / Leftists are more often this sort of desirable person thus, making this into a veiled argument that the Progressive Left is better or superior for society.

But, from the OP linked article:

The scientific literature acknowledges the existence of people with high levels of psychopathy who are not offenders or violent, the so-called “integrated psychopaths.” It also acknowledges the existence of people with high levels of psychopathy who achieve great success in their lives, the so-called “successful psychopaths.” The construct of “successful psychopathy” refers to those psychopathic personality traits such as lack of fear, high self-confidence or charisma, which can be beneficial in certain contexts.

In this direction, it has been proposed that it would be possible to find higher levels of psychopathic traits in certain professions or occupations (e.g., entrepreneurs, managers, politicians, investors, salesmen, surgeons, lawyers, telemarketing employees). The reason behind this could be that it is precisely these traits the ones that could boost the tasks involved in those professions or occupations and even facilitate success in them.

(Emphasis mine)

As the article shows, psychopathic traits for those that put them successfully to use, are highly valuable to society and even move society forward.

In this regard, after applying the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale online to 5,400 people and asking about their profession, found that, in the United Kingdom, the 10 professions with the highest levels of psychopathic traits were company CEOs, lawyers, radio or television characters, salespersons, surgeons, journalists, priests, police officers, chefs, and civil servants. On the other hand, the 10 professions with the lowest levels of psychopathic traits were social-health assistants, nurses, therapists, artisans, stylists, charity workers, teachers, creative artists, physicians, and accountants.

One could easily argue that this trait is not just valuable to society but absolutely necessary for it to grow and achieve greater levels of success. The list of low psychopathic trait professions can be seen to be ones that are necessary and valuable to society, but rarely, if ever, move it forward.

So, I would argue that Evince's thesis in this thread is wrong. Progressivism and the Left rarely move society forward but instead mire it in mediocrity and self-absorption. That is, the Left wallows in feelings and emotion putting self-interest ahead of society but in a different way than a psychopath who is driven to greater levels of success dragging society along with them.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

They can mimic empathy to try to manipulate people, but they cannot use it, because they lack it.

Politicians are some of the best at showing empathy, and that would be difficult if they lacked it. There are definitely some psychopaths in politics, but it is a difficult long term career for psychopaths. Having to spend decades guessing at empathy, the vast majority would fail badly.

Politicians definitely have off the charts problems with narcissism. That would be the tell tale psychological problem of a politician.

and many are psychopaths.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The problem with Evince's argument here is that it is very much cherry picked to make a Definist fallacy. That is, it is set up to argue that psychopathy is always a bad trait and undesirable in society while those who are more emotive, feeling, and therefore--without any proof or backing--somehow "better" people. One might infer from the examples given in his posts, that by extension Progressives / Leftists are more often this sort of desirable person thus, making this into a veiled argument that the Progressive Left is better or superior for society.

But, from the OP linked article:


(Emphasis mine)

As the article shows, psychopathic traits for those that put them successfully to use, are highly valuable to society and even move society forward.



One could easily argue that this trait is not just valuable to society but absolutely necessary for it to grow and achieve greater levels of success. The list of low psychopathic trait professions can be seen to be ones that are necessary and valuable to society, but rarely, if ever, move it forward.

So, I would argue that Evince's thesis in this thread is wrong. Progressivism and the Left rarely move society forward but instead mire it in mediocrity and self-absorption. That is, the Left wallows in feelings and emotion putting self-interest ahead of society but in a different way than a psychopath who is driven to greater levels of success dragging society along with them.

it is always a bad trait.

her error is thinking it's only republicans.

 

[Hawkeye10]

and many are psychopaths.

And are so ignorant that they dont even know.

THey are not the least bit embarrassed or ashamed.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

totalitarian regimes create secondary psychopaths, people innately capable of empathy, but who are trained to deny it to selected target populations. I.e. "deplorables".

 

[Hawkeye10]

totalitarian regimes create secondary psychopaths, people innately capable of empathy, but are trained to deny it to selected target populations. I.e. "deplorables".

Are trained in Evil....dont sugar coat it.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Are trained in Evil....dont sugar coat it.

yes. trained in evil.

 

[Hawkeye10]

yes. trained in evil.

Humans are pretty equally Good and Evil though sadly few of us ever get educated enough to know this any more (our ancestors did better).

Everything depends upon the will to do good...upon the bending of ourselves towards the Good.....upon us getting this done.

Very few Modern Morons can manage.

Buckle Up!