protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally

Seahawk - I have to split for the day. I might check in tonight. I used too much invective today, and I'd like to apologize. Not really warranted; I just get frustrated on this board sometimes.

As much as we disagree, I appreciated the discussion - I respect how you always try to bring it back to the basic root of the disagreement, instead of escalating the invective, which happens a lot here and I think I'm more geared for sometimes.
 
See my last response to Seahawk. As I said in that post, all we have to do is look at the rhetoric, and the results. We've heard Hillary's kind of stuff for many years, from many different candidates - and no riots.

So your "explanation" is that her dishonesty & fearmongering just isn't strong enough to cause the Trump supports to riot like the anti-Trump crowd.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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Seahawk - I have to split for the day. I might check in tonight. I used too much invective today, and I'd like to apologize. Not really warranted; I just get frustrated on this board sometimes.

As much as we disagree, I appreciated the discussion - I respect how you always try to bring it back to the basic root of the disagreement, instead of escalating the invective, which happens a lot here and I think I'm more geared for sometimes.

Have a good afternoon. :)
 
I disagree w/ your characterization. I think Trump ratchets up the fearmongering on terrorism bigtime, and not in a rational way. If he laid out policies that were counter to Clinton's on how to address ISIS and terrorism, and how his way is better than Clinton's, then your argument would have more merit. But "we'll wipe out ISIS so fast that your head will spin" doesn't really cut it. In fact, most in the field think that the policies that he has talked about - many of which would alienate Muslim allies who we need in the region - would be counter-productive.

So, to me, it is just naked fearmongering. You're drawing a distinction between being afraid of getting nuked, an being afraid of a terrorist attack. I just don't see it.

Again, and you'll fault me for this, but I see Hillary as a pretty run-of-the-mill politician. Her dishonesty & fearmongering is playbook stuff, and stuff I've seen from almost every candidate on both sides for years.

I have never seen anyone really pit people against each other based on religion, ethnicity & gender, at least the way Trump does. I don't like Hillary, and don't like what she does in terms of rhetoric. But I don't think it's incendiary. We've seen its clone so many times - and there haven't been the kind of riots & confrontations that we've seen at Trump rallies.

I think those results beg the question: what is different? It's not what Hillary is saying. Politicians have used her brand of fearmongering for decades.

I agree, Trump has ratcheted up the fear mongering on terrorism and immigration to the point of hysteria. His whole build the wall thing is so ludicrous it baffles the mind.

I was not meaning to draw a distinction on getting nuked and being afraid of a terrorist attack. What I was talking about was Trump nuking a country over an insult. Those are two very different things.

Also, I don' recall any politician saying the other candidate is going to nuke a country just because of an insult. I'm not sure anyone has claimed someone is going to push the button for any reason. Do you have an example of this?
 
How is me questioning your comment about how Trumps comments are a cause of the riots and pointing out your own comment, offending my sensibilities.
You do seem to be needing to finding ways to excuse not only the behavior of the rioters; but your own and the sad part is you're also ignoring it.

It's the 'don't draw Mohammed defense', instead now it's in defense of political thuggery. It's unhealthy.

My second bleat is this: these anti-Trump people are clearly angry; in contrast to Trump supporters who are better categorized as 'frustrated' than angry. Angry Trump supporters, like angry Tea Partiers, are a rare commodity, either that, they suck at getting in the news lol. But these people who think Trump is going to take away their benefits or wake up one morning and decide to nuke Moscow are ANGRY.

Lastly: as a political point, these violent protesters are going to hurt Hillary and help Trump.
 
Is that really why people start these threads? So we can all line up and one at a time, post something along the lines of "I deplore this activity and unequivocally condemn it on all levels."

well apparently not......I've never seen a liberal condemn anything done by a liberal......
 
Since you're usual response is "but...Hillary!", you don't really have a leg to stand on.

I thought my usual response was "once again the fucked up liberals ignore Hillary".........which is what you are always doing......don't ignore it and we won't have to keep reminding you......
 
I thought my usual response was "once again the fucked up liberals ignore Hillary".........which is what you are always doing......don't ignore it and we won't have to keep reminding you......

Always? You mean with all of those threads I've started & commented on calling Hillary an incredibly weak candidate?
 
The Trump protester who was pelted with eggs was taunting the crowd, it was still wrong for them to pelt her, and another man who was attacked was protected by protesters from other protestors.

lol....rana, rana, rana......it wasn't a Trump protester who was pelted by eggs......it was the Trump protesters who threw the eggs....I believe the one I saw on the news was actually a reporter.....
 
Good grief cawacko you have become a super asshole. I am I no way downplaying the violence, you are putting words into my mouth. The violence is disgusting and Sanders or Clinton or both need to address it.

I agree.....you weren't downplaying the violence......you were just lying and saying that it was the Trump supporters doing it.....
 
That said, when was the last time we saw this w/ a major candidate for POTUS? At some point, I don't think it's out of line at all to take a look at the candidate & the campaign, and say "hey...maybe there's a connection here.".
okay, maybe you're right.....so is the connection to Hillary or Sanders?.....
 
Crazy! I was just thinking to myself, "Do you know what this thread is missing? A completely lame comment from Seahawk that ignores the discussion."

Quite a coincidence.

funny you think it ignores the discussion......I thought he was pointing out the thing which your discussion was ignoring.....
 
lol....rana, rana, rana......it wasn't a Trump protester who was pelted by eggs......it was the Trump protesters who threw the eggs....I believe the one I saw on the news was actually a reporter.....

Looks like Ranaway thinks she was asking for it. Ranaway blames rape victims too especially when Crooked Hillary is defending the rapist
 
If this were happening at Crooked Hilary rally's (if any existed) Rancids tampon string would be ablaze

Let's be clear these aren't Trump protesters. They are America protesters. They are protesting people's right to assemble peacefully.

They don't realize that they are unwittingly making Trump stronger
 
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