Well, under the 9-9-9 plan, rich people would pay less and the rest of us would pay more.
Pros and Cons of 9-9-9
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Well, under the 9-9-9 plan, rich people would pay less and the rest of us would pay more.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Which is a LIE. Thanks
No, it isn't. Here's the chart of the impact of the 9-9-9 plan again in case you missed it the first time:
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No, it isn't. Here's the chart of the impact of the 9-9-9 plan again in case you missed it the first time:
This is a link to a BLOG you fucking idiot! Got anything from a reliable SOURCE? Of course you don't, because this is ALL about the propaganda now, right? It's all about convincing really stupid dumbasses that we need to continue electing Liberals to power, because only Liberals are smart enough to spend us trillions and trillions MORE into debt, and no one will ever have to pay a dime for it! ...Cuz we gonna make da RICH pay!
Fucking RETARD!
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Based on some of the information presented in this thread, I've decided that I am opposed to 9-9-9. While I do believe we need to broaden the tax base (which, unfortunately, includes raising taxes on the lower and middle classes), 9-9-9 would take that to the extreme.
Perhaps a better approach would be to set the rates slightly higher, but with a few basic exemptions, such as 12% on income over $30,000 and allow charitable deductions; 12% tax on sales excluding food, housing, and other essentials; and 12% on business profits and capital gains. This way we would still reap the benefit of a simplified tax code while also protecting the most vulnerable members of society.
Perhaps a better approach would be to set the rates slightly higher, but with a few basic exemptions, such as 12% on income over $30,000 and allow charitable deductions; 12% tax on sales excluding food, housing, and other essentials; and 12% on business profits and capital gains. This way we would still reap the benefit of a simplified tax code while also protecting the most vulnerable members of society.
The source is actually the Tax Policy Center. You can find the analysis on which the chart is based here:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/Cain-9-9-9-plan.cfm
If you have something to the contrary, feel free to post it.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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What the fuck, Thor? Is THAT all you need? Someone needs to draw you a cute little picture? Throw up some bogus graph or chart?
The 9-9-9 plan replaces all the HIDDEN taxation, all the HIDDEN loopholes, all the HIDDEN credits and incentives, and replaces them with a transparent and OPEN system that is FAIR and EASY to understand. But BECAUSE it is OPEN and TRANSPARENT, the opposition can FOOL you into thinking you are paying more in taxes. The question is, are people THAT stupid? Well, are you, Thor?
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All the figures I see are "assuming" (their words) things that are not a given. Now, I can "assume" all kinds of things and make all kinds of predictions... for instance... let me ASSUME that the 9-9-9 plan would spark unprecedented economic growth and prosperity and millions of new jobs would be created, paying wages far above the average now? Why can't THAT be assumed here? No reason, other than the fact you want to "assume" the opposite, or you want to "assume" static conditions that never change no matter what.