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californians fear that that federal pot raids will make people distrust government
No fucking shit.
Of course, then this Redmond idiot goes on to try to pin the blame of this on the 1%. But then I read this story yesterday as well which solidifies the stupidity and ignorance of most californians.
Brothers convicted of delaying Yuba county deputy
This story revolves around two brothers who exercised their 1st Amendment rights by putting up a sign that said 'taxes = theft' while wearing masks. Yuba county deputy stops and asks for ID because they look suspicious. Note that this is supposed to be code word for probably cause and reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed.
Deputy asks for ID and the brothers refuse. California is not a stop and identify state and the officer not being able to cite anything other than they looked suspicious arrests them anyway.
But the hell with it. this is why we should just charge everyone right away and let the courts and a jury sort it out, right trayvon supporters?
No fucking shit.
There are more progressives in the Bay Area today who distrust and dislike the federal government than there were before the raids began. We're going back to the days when "the feds" became a dirty word. And it's undermining everything that Obama is tyring to do with the economy.
Yeah, Wall Street, which is trying to get rid of pesky regulations, loves this -- if you hate the feds in Oaksterdam, it's hard to love them at the IRS and Securities and Exchange Commission.
Of course, then this Redmond idiot goes on to try to pin the blame of this on the 1%. But then I read this story yesterday as well which solidifies the stupidity and ignorance of most californians.
Brothers convicted of delaying Yuba county deputy
This story revolves around two brothers who exercised their 1st Amendment rights by putting up a sign that said 'taxes = theft' while wearing masks. Yuba county deputy stops and asks for ID because they look suspicious. Note that this is supposed to be code word for probably cause and reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed.
Deputy asks for ID and the brothers refuse. California is not a stop and identify state and the officer not being able to cite anything other than they looked suspicious arrests them anyway.
But here is the kicker of the whole damn thing. The jury KNOWS that they didn't break the law and the deputy was informed of such.After deliberating a little more than one hour Thursday, a Yuba County jury convicted two Wheatland brothers of misdemeanor delaying a peace officer in connection with a public anti-tax stunt last year.
Jurors unanimously convicted Benjamin and Russell Bartholomew in connection with the April 28, 2011, incident in which the duo posted a 20-foot banner on the Highway 70 overpass at Erle Road that read: “Taxes = Theft.”
“I’m surprised because it seemed clear what the law was, but apparently the jury wants people to answer police questions no matter what,” Benjamin Bartholomew, 27, said afterwards. “It essentially makes California a ‘stop-and-identify’ state, even though that’s not the law.”
Juror Roman Ontiveros said the jury believed the brothers should have simply cooperated with Yuba County sheriff’s Deputy Kenny Sowles when questioned last year.
“I think (the Bartholomews) should’ve just let it go,” Ontiveros said. “The bigger issue of free speech is a hot topic, it’s important to think about, but, at some point, we all need to watch where we walk.”
Ontiveros said the jury’s decision was “easy” and said the brothers should have “used better judgment” when dealing with law enforcement.
Rick Daugherty, another juror, said the only difficulty he had voting to convict was the fact that, as a Wheatland resident himself, he knows the family and said he believes the Bartholomews are “good kids” from “a wonderful family.”
“But, we felt they should’ve cooperated with the officer,” Daugherty said. “They were told they were doing two things wrong and were asked for their identification.”
Deputy Sowles told the brothers there were laws against hanging their sign on state property and wearing masks to conceal their identities. Sowles testified Thursday that he now knows he was not correct at the time, but Daugherty said that didn’t matter as much to jurors.
“Whether or not it was true, we felt they should’ve cooperated,” Daugherty said.
But the hell with it. this is why we should just charge everyone right away and let the courts and a jury sort it out, right trayvon supporters?