Progressive Primary Wins

I'm thrilled to see this. These blue dogs are nothing but Republicans. They are just as corporate as the R's, and almost as bad on social issues. Screw them. It's great to see the Progressive grass roots accumulating power. We can't beat these guys once they get into the general because of corporate money. They do not have to answer to the people because of corporate money. The only time we can get them is in the primaries when the base goes out to vote. This happens enough times and soon these so-called "Centrists" (horseshit) will have to start catering to the Democratic base. Excellent work.

WASHINGTON -- It was a not-so-super Tuesday for Pennsylvania's Blue Dog Democrats.

Reps. Tim Holden (D-Pa.) and Jason Altmire (D-Pa.), both members of the dwindling conservative Democratic coalition, lost their primary races on Tuesday. Before the defeat of the two incumbents, there were just 25 Blue Dogs left in Congress, after the coalition's members were wiped out in the 2010 election.

Holden lost to progressive candidate Matt Cartwright, an attorney who attacked the incumbent for voting against President Barack Obama's health care reform. Holden is the second House member to lose to a newcomer in the 2012 primaries. The other lawmaker was Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio). Both were also targeted by the anti-incumbent super PAC, the Campaign for Primary Accountability.

Getting a progressive Democrat into Pennsylvania's newly redrawn 17th Congressional District was a priority for progressive groups, including MoveOn and the League of Conservation Voters. The latter ran the largest independent expenditure campaign in the race, which included a $230,000 TV ad buy on broadcast and cable networks in the Scranton media market. The spot criticized Holden for opposing Obama's clean energy plan.

The League of Conservation Voters "targeted Representative Tim Holden for defeat explicitly because he has opposed policies that will curb harmful global warming pollution and build a clean energy economy," said Gene Karpinski, the group president. "Tim Holden is the first candidate this cycle to lose because he is out of the mainstream on global warming and clean energy, but he won't be the last.”

As National Journal pointed out, Cartwright was able to level the playing field in terms of money, "loaning $380,000 to his campaign and banking dozens of high-dollar donations from fellow trial lawyers and family members." Besides the League of Conservation Voters, the Campaign for Primary Accountability threw in more than $350,000 to oust Holden. The incumbent, meanwhile, received just $95,000 in outside help.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/pennsylvania-primary-blue-dog-democrats_n_1450926.html
 
So we're better off by getting rid of the few reasonable moderates left? How fucking stupid. Why do you think these people left the Republican party? Now Dems are pulling the same stupid moronic ideological bullshit that the wittless morons in the Repelican party did? Why that's just dumber than fuck!

We need to consider another option than this primary system. It has poisoned our political process with extremist.
 
So we're better off by getting rid of the few reasonable moderates left? How fucking stupid. Why do you think these people left the Republican party? Now Dems are pulling the same stupid moronic ideological bullshit that the wittless morons in the Repelican party did? Why that's just dumber than fuck!

We need to consider another option than this primary system. It has poisoned our political process with extremist.


You call them reasonable moderates. I call the corporate whores.

Let's call the whole thing off! :)
 
You call them reasonable moderates. I call the corporate whores.

Let's call the whole thing off! :)

And you would have the correct analyses here, Darla. Moderation is no longer a virtue in this political climate and the rightwing extremists are feeling it far more than the blue dogs and I hope the blue dogs are through just as much as you or anyone. Harold Ford, Jr. (D) TN was the last blue dog I appreciated. This is going to be a good year for popcorn and Cherry Dr. Pepper!!
 
I just hope Mark Critz isn't a blue dog in disguise. He won his first election by campaigning on being "pro-life and pro-gun", although he soft-pedaled it this time around.
 
extremely good news....I think that the Democrats should field the most liberal candidates they can find in their efforts to recover control of Congress in 12.......if necessary, recruit some members of the Communist Party......
 
extremely good news....I think that the Democrats should field the most liberal candidates they can find in their efforts to recover control of Congress in 12.......if necessary, recruit some members of the Communist Party......

I'm not so much for communism as I am for socialism. Socialistic concepts have been boons for the American population and economic well being for decades now.
 
And you would have the correct analyses here, Darla. Moderation is no longer a virtue in this political climate and the rightwing extremists are feeling it far more than the blue dogs and I hope the blue dogs are through just as much as you or anyone. Harold Ford, Jr. (D) TN was the last blue dog I appreciated. This is going to be a good year for popcorn and Cherry Dr. Pepper!!

I liked him, too!
 
I'm not so much for communism as I am for socialism. Socialistic concepts have been boons for the American population and economic well being for decades now.

The concept that all thrive is the way to save the planet. It is a concept that is good for all. It seems to be a hard concept for some to grasp, even though it is a very simple concept.
 
favor... can you point out the members of Congress that aren't 'corporate whores'??? Thanks.

The members of the progressive coalition. That's why I vote progressive in primaries. The most liberal candidate running gets my vote. Blue dogs never. They are corporate owned, and this is not controversial - they brag about it for god sakes.
 
Harold Ford is an ass. This series of paragraphs from a NY Times profile of him when he was kicking around the idea of running for Senate in New York against Gillebrad about sum it up:

After Mr. Ford, a five-term Tennessee congressman, arrived in New York, he took a job as a vice chairman at Merrill Lynch (now Bank of America). But he kept a toe in politics, becoming a commentator on Fox and then NBC, which features him several days a week on programs like MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

Speaking from a conference room at New York University, where he is a teacher, Mr. Ford, 39, expressed enthusiasm about his new hometown, though he described a life quite different than most New Yorkers. On many days, he is driven to an NBC television studio in a chauffeured car. He and his wife, Emily, a 29-year-old fashion executive, live a few blocks from the Lexington Avenue subway line in the Flatiron district. But Mr. Ford said he takes the subway only occasionally in the winter, to avoid the cold when he cannot hail a cab.

Asked whether he had visited all five boroughs, he mentioned taking a helicopter ride across the city with fellow executives, at the invitation of Raymond W. Kelly, New York City’s police commissioner. “The only place I have not spent considerable time is Staten Island,” he said, adding that “I landed there in the helicopter, so I can say yes.”

Asked about his baseball loyalties, he responded: “I am a Yankees fan,” and added that he had yet to visit Citi Field, the home of the Mets.

He has breakfast most mornings at the Regency Hotel on Park Avenue, and he receives regular pedicures. (He described them as treatment for a foot condition.)

Mr. Ford declined to discuss what he is paid by the bank, but publicly available data suggests that he earns at least $1 million a year. Asked what role outsize pay packages played in fueling the financial crisis, Mr. Ford said he objected to capping executive compensation on Wall Street. “I am a capitalist,” he said. “I believe that people take risk, and there are rewards if they do well; they should lose if they don’t.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/nyregion/13ford.html?pagewanted=all
 
The members of the progressive coalition. That's why I vote progressive in primaries. The most liberal candidate running gets my vote. Blue dogs never. They are corporate owned, and this is not controversial - they brag about it for god sakes.

could you provide me with a name or two you think is a part of that coalition that isn't a corp whore?
 
Harold Ford is an ass. This series of paragraphs from a NY Times profile of him when he was kicking around the idea of running for Senate in New York against Gillebrad about sum it up:



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/13/nyregion/13ford.html?pagewanted=all

I wasn't going to say anything because I hate to ruin a party, but...I was not a fan myself. In fact I called his office the day after he claimed he had been all over NY and met cabdrivers and maids (all the people whose tips and livelihood depended upon being sycophantic to him) had told him to run for the Gillibrand's Senate seat, and not even one person had told him not to! - and told him "Don't run. Now you can't say no new yorker has asked you not to run".
 
So we're better off by getting rid of the few reasonable moderates left? How fucking stupid. Why do you think these people left the Republican party? Now Dems are pulling the same stupid moronic ideological bullshit that the wittless morons in the Repelican party did? Why that's just dumber than fuck!

We need to consider another option than this primary system. It has poisoned our political process with extremist.
Liberalism is the poison, my friend. We Conservatives just want our country back... by war if necessary.
 
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