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you use buzzwords....but can't explain how those buzzwords actually work or how you would actually implement them
when you do....get back to me
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you use buzzwords....but can't explain how those buzzwords actually work or how you would actually implement them
when you do....get back to me
Sammy Jankis
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Tariff isn't a buzzword. Tariffs work by making foreign products more expensive, giving an advantage in the marketplace to domestically produced goods, increasing jobs, and creating demand from employed people.
Have you gone retarded or something. What can't you understand about that logic? I can type slower if you want.
Sammy Jankis
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Im suprised dixie hasn't swooped in to offer his inane ramblings about how protectionism is bad.
They're so convincing. not. I mean not convincing.
They're so convincing. not. I mean not convincing.
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oh....you actually know what the word means...
ok....now....read slowly and read twice if you need to:
what protectionist policies (hint: tariffs, subsidies etc) do YOU support and how do YOU believe they will help our government.
Sammy Jankis
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All of them. I support all of them. Now you tell me how all of them will fail.
Describe to me how they don't stimulate domestic production and job creation.
Or just choose one.
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good lord....you do know that tariffs and subsidies have DOLLAR amounts....i hope...or do you believe if i just say --> tariff....poof....there is a tariff and it works by magic...
Sammy Jankis
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good lord....you do know that tariffs and subsidies have DOLLAR amounts....i hope...or do you believe if i just say --> tariff....poof....there is a tariff and it works by magic...
So no actual argument then about how protectionism doesn't work then? That suits me.
and yes, they are implemented by magical means.
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So no actual argument then about how protectionism doesn't work then? That suits me.
and yes, they are implemented by magical means.
you haven't even presented an argument about how your protectionist policies would work...
lmao...asshat you're classic....you won't present an argument for your point raised, and yet you demand the other side do so, and until they do, you declare yourself a winner
Sammy Jankis
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I already explained how protectionism benefits the economy:
It's quite simple. the protectionist policies make imports more expensive, thus making it cheaper to produce things domestically, creating domestic jobs and increasing demand in the process.
I don't have a bill drafted or anything. But you have yet to effectively rebut the general idea.
He's a "big picture" kinda guy, which translates into English to mean, "I haven't any ideas."
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lol...it appears so.....i mean anyone can claim this system or that system works...buzzwords are easy to use....it gets much more difficult when you have to actually use those buzzwords in a sentence
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i don't have to rebut your idea....you are the one who is proffering the idea....so it is up to you to convince others to follow your idea
what a strange view of leadership you have....apparently you believe if you shout out -- we should do X....then all the people should do X unless they rebut X....
not the way it works
again....i want specifics....you offer general buzzwords
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Japanese protectionism is one of the things that lead to their bubble. They were good in the 80's. These days they are slipping so far I wonder how long they're going to continue to be a developed nation.
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America lost a quarter of a million jobs due to Bush's steel tariffs.
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And the corporations that have to pay those higher prices for less goods lose their real comparative advantage, giving foreigners an advantage in non-American nations. Due to a loss of profits, these efficient corporations have to lay off workers so that the inefficient ones can prosper. Protectionism is a wealth transfer from the efficient to the inefficient.
And when other nations begin exercising retaliatory tariffs...
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In the simplified version they only talk about the one thing because it's easier to explain that way. The theory does not actually require you to choose one thing, it says it's always best for yourself to concentrate on anything that you're good at, rather than trying to do everything all yourself. God you're an ignorant prole.
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it has been speculated that it did lead to their bubble, it has also been speculated that their backing of their banks also led to that....then again....they wiped out american electronics - see zenith etc....with their protectionism...if you wanted to sell in japan....once upon a time you had to effectively hand over your patents...
see modern electronics and cars....
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Refusal to back their banks.
Sammy Jankis
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In the simplified version they only talk about the one thing because it's easier to explain that way. The theory does not actually require you to choose one thing, it says it's always best for yourself to concentrate on anything that you're good at, rather than trying to do everything all yourself. God you're an ignorant prole.
Another flaw is they consider "willingness to enslave your people" to be a legitimate comparative advantage. Instead, this should be a reason to be kept out of international trade.
They also leave out the cost to society of massive unemployment due to shipping all production overseas.
They also leave out the security risk of being dependant on hostile nations.
They also leave out the fact that many of these "advantages" are based on manipulated currency, and wildly different costs of living due to the developed nations being gouged to subsidize sales in poorer countries.
Globalization certainly is merely a refusal to place trade policy inside a context of other considerations. It's a myopic and brainless attack on the developed world, designed to drive it into poverty.
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Sammy Jankis
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But we would see massive production increases merely serving our own needs.
Our market is the golden goose.