Presidential approval!
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Into the Night
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Argument from randU fallacy. Stop making up numbers and using them as 'data'.
Jake Starkey
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As of late October 2025, President Donald Trump's approval rating stands at 39%, with 58% disapproval—giving him a net approval of -19 points, the lowest of his second term.
Here’s a detailed snapshot of the latest polling:
National Approval Ratings (October 24–30, 2025)
| Pollster | Approval | Disapproval | Net Approval |
|---|---|---|---|
| Economist/YouGov | 39% | 58% | -19% |
| Reuters/Ipsos | 40% | 57% | -17% |
| Gallup | 41% | ~55% | ~-14% |
| Quinnipiac (Aug) | 37% | 55% | -18% |
The Economist/YouGov poll (Oct 24–27) marks his lowest net approval of the second term. It also shows:
- Only 20% of Americans under 30 approve of his performance
- 11% of Black Americans and 29% of Hispanic Americans approve
- Men: 46% approval vs. Women: 32% approval
Issue-Based Approval (Economist/YouGov)
| Issue | Net Approval |
|---|---|
| Immigration | -10% |
| Abortion | -17% |
| Education | -19% |
| Jobs & Economy | -22% |
| Climate & Environment | -22% |
| Inflation & Grocery Prices | -31% |
Controversial Actions with High Disapproval
- Demolishing the White House East Wing for a ballroom: -36%
- Commuting George Santos’ sentence: -44%
- Demanding compensation for past investigations: -44%
- Canceling trade talks with Canada: -31%
www.nationofchange.org/2025/10/30/trump-approval-slump-puts-2026-midterms-and-gop-strategy-in-jeopardy/
Into the Night
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Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not data, Sybil.As of late October 2025, President Donald Trump's approval rating stands at 39%, with 58% disapproval—giving him a net approval of -19 points, the lowest of his second term.
Here’s a detailed snapshot of the latest polling:
Pollster Approval Disapproval Net Approval Economist/YouGov 39% 58% -19% Reuters/Ipsos 40% 57% -17% Gallup 41% ~55% ~-14% Quinnipiac (Aug) 37% 55% -18%
The Economist/YouGov poll (Oct 24–27) marks his lowest net approval of the second term. It also shows:
- Only 20% of Americans under 30 approve of his performance
- 11% of Black Americans and 29% of Hispanic Americans approve
- Men: 46% approval vs. Women: 32% approval
Issue Net Approval Immigration -10% Abortion -17% Education -19% Jobs & Economy -22% Climate & Environment -22% Inflation & Grocery Prices -31%
Despite these numbers, Trump has claimed on Truth Social that he has “the best Polling Numbers that I have ever received,” dismissing the data as “fake ads”
- Demolishing the White House East Wing for a ballroom: -36%
- Commuting George Santos’ sentence: -44%
- Demanding compensation for past investigations: -44%
- Canceling trade talks with Canada: -31%
www.nationofchange.org/2025/10/30/trump-approval-slump-puts-2026-midterms-and-gop-strategy-in-jeopardy/
Into the Night
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What oligarchs, Hawk?
AI
On October 31, 2021, polling data from NBC News showed President Joe Biden's approval rating at 42%, with 54% of Americans disapproving.
Welcome to day 27 of the government shutdown. We’re nearly one month in and it’s still not clear when the standoff will end. It’s also unclear what “winning” this shutdown would even look like. But what I can say is that the shutdown is still not affecting Donald Trump’s approval rating. As of today, 43.8 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing and 53.1 percent disapprove, for a net approval rating of -9.2.
How popular is Donald Trump?
Silver Bulletin approval ratings for President Trump — and all presidents since Truman.
www.natesilver.net
Jake Starkey
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I saw 38%AI
On October 31, 2021, polling data from NBC News showed President Joe Biden's approval rating at 42%, with 54% of Americans disapproving.
Welcome to day 27 of the government shutdown. We’re nearly one month in and it’s still not clear when the standoff will end. It’s also unclear what “winning” this shutdown would even look like. But what I can say is that the shutdown is still not affecting Donald Trump’s approval rating. As of today, 43.8 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing and 53.1 percent disapprove, for a net approval rating of -9.2.
How popular is Donald Trump?
Silver Bulletin approval ratings for President Trump — and all presidents since Truman.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Yet he is still your President
Jake Starkey
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So?
I am hoping China as a right-now problem is off the table; I truly do.
But the man's mind is breaking.
I am hoping China as a right-now problem is off the table; I truly do.
But the man's mind is breaking.
Into the Night
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Argument from randU fallacy. Random numbers are not statistical math, even though statistical math uses them. Statistical math does not use random numbers of type randU. Trump won the last election by a 7% margin.
Into the Night
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Mantra 1d. Inversion fallacy. Lame, Sybil.
Jake Starkey
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Jake Starkey
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An Inversion Fallacy, Into the Night, is when "An inversion fallacy occurs when someone mistakenly reverses the direction of a logical relationship or implication. In other words, they assume that if A implies B, then B must also imply A—which is not necessarily true."
You are throwing a term around you don't understand. That Trump's health is failing has nothing to do with the trade discussions with China.
You are throwing a term around you don't understand. That Trump's health is failing has nothing to do with the trade discussions with China.
Jake Starkey
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You mistakenly, Into the Night, refer to the RandU fallacy, which is a "fallacy refers to the misuse of random numbers of unknown origin—often labeled as “RandU” (Random, Unknown)—as if they were valid data or evidence in an argument. It’s a term sometimes used informally or rhetorically in online debates, especially in scientific or political discussions, to criticize someone for presenting arbitrary figures without proper sourcing or statistical rigor?"
I referred to current polling which shows Trump at all-time lows.
They are not random at all, and common knowledge to all. AI reports "As of late October 2025, Donald Trump's approval rating is at 39%, with 58% disapproval—giving him a net approval of -19%, the lowest of his second term."
Sources include www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-low-approval-rating-october-b2854656.html, and www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/10/29/trump-approval-rating-hits-second-term-low-in-latest-poll-despite-his-claims-of-highest-numbers-ever/.
I referred to current polling which shows Trump at all-time lows.
They are not random at all, and common knowledge to all. AI reports "As of late October 2025, Donald Trump's approval rating is at 39%, with 58% disapproval—giving him a net approval of -19%, the lowest of his second term."
Sources include www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-low-approval-rating-october-b2854656.html, and www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/10/29/trump-approval-rating-hits-second-term-low-in-latest-poll-despite-his-claims-of-highest-numbers-ever/.
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ThatOwlWoman
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Yep. But wait! There's more! He won because of the grave concerns over inflation and the economy. People forgot what he did to that the first time. Example of be careful what you vote for, below.
Source here.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
As of late October 2025, President Donald Trump's approval rating stands at 39%, with 58% disapproval—giving him a net approval of -19 points, the lowest of his second term.
Here’s a detailed snapshot of the latest polling:
Pollster Approval Disapproval Net Approval Economist/YouGov 39% 58% -19% Reuters/Ipsos 40% 57% -17% Gallup 41% ~55% ~-14% Quinnipiac (Aug) 37% 55% -18%
The Economist/YouGov poll (Oct 24–27) marks his lowest net approval of the second term. It also shows:
- Only 20% of Americans under 30 approve of his performance
- 11% of Black Americans and 29% of Hispanic Americans approve
- Men: 46% approval vs. Women: 32% approval
Issue Net Approval Immigration -10% Abortion -17% Education -19% Jobs & Economy -22% Climate & Environment -22% Inflation & Grocery Prices -31%
Despite these numbers, Trump has claimed on Truth Social that he has “the best Polling Numbers that I have ever received,” dismissing the data as “fake ads”
- Demolishing the White House East Wing for a ballroom: -36%
- Commuting George Santos’ sentence: -44%
- Demanding compensation for past investigations: -44%
- Canceling trade talks with Canada: -31%
www.nationofchange.org/2025/10/30/trump-approval-slump-puts-2026-midterms-and-gop-strategy-in-jeopardy/
Outstanding summary. Thanks.
Tbird19482
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Into the night is a complete moron and IMO that is giving him 25 more IQ points then he really has.