President Trump just directed his Department of Commerce to perform a NEW CENSUS that doesn’t include illegal aliens

[Diesel]

In 2020, the RNC chairman decided that New Mexico was a lost cause, and refused to fund GOP ballot / election integrity monitors. So, there were Dems election monitors, but ZERO GOP counterparts to represent the GOP / non-Dem voters.


However, Morena, the Mexico Socialist party, sent hundreds of "Election Integrity Monitors" to New Mexico. They did fine things, like come around to the burned out home, of a person who DARED to put up a GOP political yard sign, which the local fire department allowed the home set on fire by "Unknown" arsonists, to burn to the ground, fire unrestrained. And among other things the Morena Election Integrity Monitors said to the grieving home owners, was that anyone who put a GOP political sign on their property, would find their homes burned out.


New Mexico is more under the control of the Mexican Socialists, and the Drug Cartels, than they are under any form of American control.


Mr. Trump, Please Mr. President, Help New Mexico!


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You are such a fucking liar.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I live in a blue state, in a town of 108K citizens. We now have, after the Biden/Obama3 open borders, 14K illegals, and 8K Syrian unvetted Refugees. One is six people here in my small town, are Lefties invited illegals.

Interesting. You are claiming your town had 20% growth in 4 years.
I wonder why the census doesn't show any town or city of close 100,000 having that kind of growth. The small towns with the largest percentage growth are in Texas are have less than 50,000 people.

Four things that I have learned when watching them:

1] They don't say they are illegals when applying for welfare and free healthcare. And those signing them up don't ask.

2] When they register to vote, and then vote, they don't admit to being illegals, and those signing them up don't ask.

Only citizens can vote, Voter registration is a public record. I am curious why you don't report such illegal voter registration since you seem to know all those non citizens.

3] When they are asked to fill out census forms, usually in front of Walmart, they don't admit they are illegals, and those running the census kiosk do not ask.

There is no question on the census to ask if someone is here legally. It would be illegal for a census worker to ask for information not on the census form.

4] They almost always supplement their welfare income by some form of crime, usually drug dealing, or steal Catalytic Converters, or smashing open car windows and looting whatever they find. If you report it to the police, two days later, a pair of officers will show up, and inform you that it is too late to do anything about the crime, and leave. They don't even file a report, even if you have home security video, that includes clear images of their faces, and the license plate number of the car they are driving. The tone and words of the officers indicates that you have greatly pissed them off, and it will be remembered, for daring to call in a complaint about the crime.

I am curious as to which town you live in since for your statement to be true, the crime rate would have had to go up 20% or more. I see no such place existing in the FBI data.

After the Collapse-War, the Census won't matter so much...

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[gfm7175]

It seems you either are ignorant of or purposely ignoring the state legislative districts

This whole conversation is about the congressional districts, not the state legislative districts.

Are you claiming that only the legislative districts in Wisconsin are "WORST GERRYMANDER IN COUNTRY!" and that the congressional districts are just fine?

as they were drawn by the Republicans before the courts put a stop to

Yes, the lines before the current ones were drawn by Republicans, but the current ones were drawn by Democrats.

what was probably the worst gerrymander in the country.

Poor Richard Saunders: "parrot mode, activated!"

It's nowhere near as bad as the Illinois and New Mexico maps that I posted earlier. Take a look at those again and explain to me precisely how/why Wisconsin is worse than those two are.

Nowhere in Wisconsin is a district thinly carved out of the middle of another district, purposely connecting a handful of cities together in order to carve a Democrat district out of an otherwise blood red area (Illinois).

 

[gfm7175]

It seems you either are ignorant of or purposely ignoring the state legislative districts as they were drawn by the Republicans before the courts put a stop to what was probably the worst gerrymander in the country.

2nd reply to this post: I can even give you a brief history/overview of each district.

DISTRICT 1: Democrats owed this district from 1970 - 1994. Republicans have owned it from 1994 - present. Republicans, via the 2010 congressional map, redrew the lines to further cement it as a "red" district. Democrats, via the current congressional map, have now recently redrawn the lines to make it into a competitive "toss up" district.

DISTRICT 2: Solid D district (Madison)

DISTRICT 3: Republicans had it in early 70s, Democrats had it in the mid 70s, then Republicans took it over again from late 70s until 1996. In 1996, Ron Kind won this district and owned it until 2022, mostly because of stupid Republicans. Republicans, back in 2010, stupidly didn't consider this district to be "winnable" anymore, so when they redrew the congressional maps in 2010, they redrew the lines to include Stevens Point and two other Dem cities (to take Democrat votes away from the 7th district, to help out the new guy who had just won in the 7th in future elections).

This move ultimately backfired on R's because, in 2022, R's finally won the 3rd district and could now use the extra 7th district votes in the much-tighter 3rd district. In 2020, R's wanted to move Stevens Point back to the 7th district, but Democrats stopped it from happening in order to keep the 3rd more competitive. If R's would have been smarter in 2010, they would've known that the 7th was trending their way (and that the 3rd was winnable with the correct candidate) so they wouldn't've moved all three of those Democrat cities into the 3rd (they would've instead kept one or two of them in the 7th). This district remains a "toss up" district.

DISTRICT 4: Solid D district (Milwaukee)

DISTRICT 5: This was a solid D district from the 70s until 2000 (because it only consisted of northern Milwaukee at the time, because there was also a 9th district that used to exist (until 2000) that covered the Milwaukee burbs and rural areas west of Milwaukee). In 2000, the 9th district was eliminated and basically became the 5th district. It is now, like the 9th was, a solid R district (Milwaukee burbs and rural areas west of Milwaukee).

DISTRICT 6: Solid R district (Fond du Lac area)

DISTRICT 7: This was a "toss up" district that the same D representative kept winning from the 70s all the way up until 2010, when R's finally flipped it. It has, since then, become a solid R district. You can refer back to my district 3 section for the story surrounding this district.

DISTRICT 8: Solid R district (Green Bay area, and north)

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

2nd reply to this post: I can even give you a brief history/overview of each district.

DISTRICT 1: Democrats owed this district from 1970 - 1994. Republicans have owned it from 1994 - present. Republicans, via the 2010 congressional map, redrew the lines to further cement it as a "red" district. Democrats, via the current congressional map, have now recently redrawn the lines to make it into a competitive "toss up" district.

DISTRICT 2: Solid D district (Madison)

DISTRICT 3: Republicans had it in early 70s, Democrats had it in the mid 70s, then Republicans took it over again from late 70s until 1996. In 1996, Ron Kind won this district and owned it until 2022, mostly because of stupid Republicans. Republicans, back in 2010, stupidly didn't consider this district to be "winnable" anymore, so when they redrew the congressional maps in 2010, they redrew the lines to include Stevens Point and two other Dem cities (to take Democrat votes away from the 7th district, to help out the new guy who had just won in the 7th in future elections).

This move ultimately backfired on R's because, in 2022, R's finally won the 3rd district and could now use the extra 7th district votes in the much-tighter 3rd district. In 2020, R's wanted to move Stevens Point back to the 7th district, but Democrats stopped it from happening in order to keep the 3rd more competitive. If R's would have been smarter in 2010, they would've known that the 7th was trending their way (and that the 3rd was winnable with the correct candidate) so they wouldn't've moved all three of those Democrat cities into the 3rd (they would've instead kept one or two of them in the 7th). This district remains a "toss up" district.

DISTRICT 4: Solid D district (Milwaukee)

DISTRICT 5: This was a solid D district from the 70s until 2000 (because it only consisted of northern Milwaukee at the time, because there was also a 9th district that used to exist (until 2000) that covered the Milwaukee burbs and rural areas west of Milwaukee). In 2000, the 9th district was eliminated and basically became the 5th district. It is now, like the 9th was, a solid R district (Milwaukee burbs and rural areas west of Milwaukee).

DISTRICT 6: Solid R district (Fond du Lac area)

DISTRICT 7: This was a "toss up" district that the same D representative kept winning from the 70s all the way up until 2010, when R's finally flipped it. It has, since then, become a solid R district. You can refer back to my district 3 section for the story surrounding this district.

DISTRICT 8: Solid R district (Green Bay area, and north)

Wow. You don't even know the difference between state and federal governments. How am I not surprised that you are that ignorant?

 

[gfm7175]

Wow. You don't even know the difference between state and federal governments. How am I not surprised that you are that ignorant?

You can't even stay on topic. This conversation (and its relation to the thread) is about CONGRESSIONAL districts, NOT state legislative districts.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You can't even stay on topic. This conversation (and its relation to the thread) is about CONGRESSIONAL districts, NOT state legislative districts.

It's about redoing the census. The census is used to create state legislative districts as well as federal ones.