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President Trump Declares War on the IRS
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AProudLefty
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Tobytone
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Look at those ridiculous little snowflakes with all that shiny gear. I wonder how many of the little libtards have shot themselves while training for their tax assaults? I hope Trump moves the entire IRS in large tents on a secluded stretch of the border. lol
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I've been audited pretty often; I've never had a problem with them and in fact they have found they owed me more money than I thought I was owed 3 times. Most people who have trouble with them can't read the forms and believe idiot scams they hear about on talk radio and are trying to cheat using stupid schemes or other, like claiming all their employees are 'sub-contractors', trying to weasel out of paying payroll taxes on their illegal alien hires or something, for example.
I guess they're like the Post Office or any other govt. agency, the quality of regional staff available for hiring varies a lot. When I had to go downtown to sign up for Medicare and Social Security there was a line out the door, and it was a big lobby, big Federal building. I was in and out in about 45 minutes; run very efficiently and professionally. All have been very pleasant and polite people.
State Govt. employees in California, on the other hand, are nasty pieces of shit. I've won two lawsuits against them, and I don''t buy any products made or grown in that state as a result. They should be kicked out of the U.S. and treated as if they're North Korea.
I guess they're like the Post Office or any other govt. agency, the quality of regional staff available for hiring varies a lot. When I had to go downtown to sign up for Medicare and Social Security there was a line out the door, and it was a big lobby, big Federal building. I was in and out in about 45 minutes; run very efficiently and professionally. All have been very pleasant and polite people.
State Govt. employees in California, on the other hand, are nasty pieces of shit. I've won two lawsuits against them, and I don''t buy any products made or grown in that state as a result. They should be kicked out of the U.S. and treated as if they're North Korea.
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Tobytone
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When I wore a younger man's clothes, I went through a period of not filing taxes for 10 years. When I finally did, I found out that the government owed me a substantial amount of loot in the first 6 years I didn't file, and I owed a small amount on the last few years. The nice little detail I learned: If you owe the government money they can go back 10 years, if they owe you, they only go back 3 years. Sounds fair. Right?
Put them on the border, Please!
Not a problem for me. I've gone several years without filing, with no problems. Not 10 years, though. Mostly they audit me in years where I file a large income on my W2-G's or my options trading. I keep good records so it's never a problem for me. If you don;t owe anything it doesn't matter how far they go back. Never needed a lawyer in my dealings with them, though it would be wise for some to hire one, especially those who beleive dodgy advice they find on the innernetz.
I do my own taxes; I don't trust accountants. They aren't the ones held liable for anything.
Tobytone
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I look forward to any move to make those new agents quit. On a serious note, I think one way the Republicans could win the next 10 elections, dramatically simplify.
Given the complexities of the economy, I'm not sure simplification is possible in many areas. However, I do consider wages and salaries to be barter, no gains or value to be taxed there, and not real income in the strict economic sense, and therefore shouldn't be taxed at all as incomes. That could easily be simplified.
With inflation, off-shoring, and automation running up into large percentages, payroll taxes are obsolete and have an out-sized negative effect on the economy.
The many so-called 'Fair Tax' scams are even worse, and aren't even remotely 'fair'. Right wingers need to quit trying to sell that rubbish and grow up.
Some taxes are utterly ridiculous, like 'inventory taxes' for example; taxing goods that have yet to be sold is just bizarre. They're net losses until they are sold, and only if the sale prices is higher than the costs. The 'logic' for those kinds of taxes fails me. I'm referring to domestically produced goods, not imported ones. The latter would be covered by tariffs and other assessments, depending on the industry and whether they are raw materials or not.
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Tobytone
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I know it's difficult to envision, sell, and implement, but as the old adage goes, 'nothing worth doing is easy.' It would require overcoming considerable challenges, but the benefits aren't quite as difficult to imagine.
Estimates as high as 500 billion a year and 8 billion hours spent being in compliance demonstrate the immense cost involved. The effects of all but eliminating the IRS would be profound. I understand it's a pipe dream, but what the hell, I really liked a pipe at one time. lol
Over the course of 30 years of doing payroll for my business I have forgotten to deposit the payroll taxes by the 15 more than once. The IRS has always forgiven the penalty, which is stiff. The State of Oregon is not that cordial.
Am I the only one it pisses off that every year this time I pay an accountant thousands of dollars just to calculate how much I owe the motherfuckers? The entire system is a parasitic scam.
Am I the only one it pisses off that every year this time I pay an accountant thousands of dollars just to calculate how much I owe the motherfuckers? The entire system is a parasitic scam.
Big biz loves complex tax codes. That has served them well. Nobody cares if the little people get crushed under ridiculous bureaucratic ennui; in fact the elites love it.
NiftyNiblick
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It's one thing that Trump is a total idiot, but far more frightening,
he has revealed how many millions of other Americans are idiots as well.
Third World status appears inevitable for the US at this point.
he has revealed how many millions of other Americans are idiots as well.
Third World status appears inevitable for the US at this point.
Into the Night
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No. Trump is moving to a tariff taxation method rather than taxing incomes. You know...the way it used to be.
Into the Night
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You can't see anything. You have too big a mote in your eye.
Into the Night
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The SDTC no longer recognizes the Constitution of the State of California nor the Constitution of the United States. They are ALREADY effectively no part of the United States. Their current form of government is dictatorship. They should have NO representation until the region is restored as a republic.
No sir, you did that all on your own.
Into the Night
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Washington has a Revenue tax. You are taxed on your revenue (not the profit) regardless of whether you make a profit or not!
Into the Night
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There is only one Earth, Nifty.
Considering pols have been weaponizing the IRS against their business and political enemies from its invention, the IRS has no reason to complain about the ill will it generates; same with the FBI and CIA. Andrew Mellon, who pretty much owned the Republican Party for decades, loved using it against his enemies, which is why Wright Patman and FDR went after him and his monopolies.
www.csmonitor.com
Playing the IRS card: Six presidents who used the IRS to bash political foes
Since the advent of the federal income tax about a century ago, several presidents – or their zealous underlings – have directed the IRS to use its formidable police powers to harass or punish enemies, political rivals, and administration critics. Here are six infamous episodes.
www.csmonitor.com