President disapproval hits 60%

We wouldn't even be having this discussion, if we used the popular vote for selecting presidents for ourselves. Because we would never ever select a president that had less than 50% approval rating in the first place.

News flash - the Electoral College has been around since the founding of the Republic, and opinion polls never elected anyone.
 
News flash - the Electoral College has been around since the founding of the Republic, and opinion polls never elected anyone.

The reason for the Electoral System lies in the evils of our federal system. Under the electoral college structure, smaller states have enormous political leverage. Wyoming has a population of 584,153 and has three electoral votes, which means that each Wyoming elector represents 194,717 voters. California has a population of 38,800,000 and has 55 electoral votes so each elector represents 705,454 voters. So each vote in Wyoming is worth 3.6 times more than each vote in California. Other smaller states such as Rhode Island, Montana, North and South Dakota, Nebraska and Idaho also have exalted political power.

In addition, the so-called swing states get all the attention. Candidates focus on Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia and North Carolina and make many promises to voters in those states which they are obliged to honor when the election is over. Given the importance of Iowa in the nomination process, every candidate makes promises about ethanol subsidies important to the farmers in that State but not to the rest of the population. The other 40 states get little attention or promises. If the election was based only on popular vote, then the candidates would go where the votes are, California, New York, Texas and Illinois and the swing states would have less importance But there are 29 states with less than ten electoral votes whose influence in a presidential election would be greatly diminished. Why would they agree to a Constitutional amendment that would reduce their power in the political system?

So we maintain the electoral college to defend the interests of individual smaller states, even though the original purpose of the system no longer exists. The system can deny victory to a person who wins the popular vote (as it has five times in our history) or at the least it may make any election seem decisive — a candidate can win by 100 electoral votes even if the popular vote may be less than 1 percent. That way, the population can believe that the candidate was the proper popular choice.

It is true that a popular vote system would require a search for votes in every state if the election is close, as opposed to a search for votes only in specific states where there may be a close contest. But we already search for votes everywhere in a close governor’s contest. We should at the least question the basis for a system which was born out of a distrust of democracy and now serves as a rejection of majority rule.
 
It has never happened yet where a Republican wins the Popular vote but loses the Electoral Vote.

But, let me tell you- it will happen eventually, and when it does- You are going to have Republicans crying and begging for Democracy!

Trust me- the day is coming and I'm going to just laugh when all the crying on the right starts!

Could it be 2020? LOL!
 
It has never happened yet where a Republican wins the Popular vote but loses the Electoral Vote.

But, let me tell you- it will happen eventually, and when it does- You are going to have Republicans crying and begging for Democracy!

Trust me- the day is coming and I'm going to just laugh when all the crying on the right starts!

Could it be 2020? LOL!

Nope. I never cry about the Constitution as originally written. That is a leftist game.

I do love that Trump won the EC and lost the “popular vote” that doesn’t count for anything and I hope he does it again in 2020 because you will disappear from JPP
 
Nope. I never cry about the Constitution as originally written. That is a leftist game.

I do love that Trump won the EC and lost the “popular vote” that doesn’t count for anything and I hope he does it again in 2020 because you will disappear from JPP

Bullshit. If Hillary won on the electoral college and Trump had more votes, you would be bleating and crying.The electoral college is atavistic and should have been broomed long ago.The left will not b oled wit that bull.
 
then we should wait until you idiots figure it out we should continue too use it against you......

It's basically up to each state!

There are two states that do still use the popular vote in their states!

But, after the election of a Donald Trump- I bet more states will be wanting to move towards a Popular Vote in their state!
 
It's basically up to each state!

There are two states that do still use the popular vote in their states!

But, after the election of a Donald Trump- I bet more states will be wanting to move towards a Popular Vote in their state.

If we are going to be the model for Democracy in the world- We may want to start practicing what we are preaching!

We are the only Democratic nation in the world that does not use the popular vote to elect our leader!
 
It's basically up to each state!

There are two states that do still use the popular vote in their states!

But, after the election of a Donald Trump- I bet more states will be wanting to move towards a Popular Vote in their state.

If we are going to be the model for Democracy in the world- We may want to start practicing what we are preaching!

We are the only Democratic nation in the world that does not use the popular vote to elect our leader!

really?....because lots of countries, like Britain, have their parliament chose their leaders......
 
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