Prediction?

signalmankenneth

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I predict the 2012 republican ticket will be Perry and Bachmann?!!

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/perry-bachmann-buttons-big-sellers-new-orleans/

The country and the world will be f*cked if these two are elected president and vice president?!!

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I understand that Socialists are already fearful. Perry/Bachmann will restore our Nation to greatness. If your vision of America is a Third World country like the one Obama has in mind, you can leave for Cuba or North Korea.

We the People are taking America back with Gods help.
 
I hope to heck we're smarter than that. My guess is that Perry, Bachmann, and Palin if she enters, would split the christian vote between them thus allowing Romney to snatch the prize. Newt is pretty much gone.

I don't think Palin will enter, but two uber-Christians will split that vote. I see maybe a Romney/Bachmann ticket rather than a Perry/Bachmann ticket.

I do predict that Obama will be only partially successful in convincing people that he's been effective, and that he's a one-termer due to the class warfare rubbish. People in the US understand that the measure of evil isn't in what you earn, but that it is in what you take from others that you did not earn.
 
Bull, road apples, the people realize that the millionaires of the USA need to be taxed at a fair rate, we need to raise revenue along with making cuts, those are the cold hard facts.
 
Bull, road apples, the people realize that the millionaires of the USA need to be taxed at a fair rate, we need to raise revenue along with making cuts, those are the cold hard facts.

Did you know that people in unions used to pay taxes? 50% of us no longer pay taxes at all... Those people would have never felt that it was just that they get something for nothing. Now that the top 50% of the earners pay all the taxes, how much more of the burden percentage do you think they should bear? Should we double it or triple it? Or maybe we can actually have some of that bottom pony up their fair share too.

A nation of looters who believe that the earnings of others is their just recompense. Fight to earn what you are worth rather than work as a branch of one political party and you might get people to join unions again. There is something to say for taking pride in paying your own fair share.
 
I understand that Socialists are already fearful. Perry/Bachmann will restore our Nation to greatness. If your vision of America is a Third World country like the one Obama has in mind, you can leave for Cuba or North Korea.

We the People are taking America back with Gods help.

Are you trying for the 'Most Stupid Comment' award? You are more likely to become the first nation that willingly enslaves itself to two of the greediest and unethical people in America. Welcome to the 'Koch-up States'.
 
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. People in the US understand that the measure of evil isn't in what you earn, but that it is in what you take from others that you did not earn.[/QUOTE]

But you still sipport the Kochs.
 
I didn't see union families mentioned specifically, but if you figure they are part of that 49% of the general population, than I guess you could say that, you could also say 50 % of the People who worked for the military or Wall St, or 50% of non union workers...

So, why target union workers?

We have allowed the government to spend us into a bad place, we either pay now because we are the ones who spent it or suffer the consequences and worse, future generations don't have a chance!
 
Thanks, Low good point. People take what they don't earn by not paying their workers a living wage, to me that is theft!
 
Thanks, Low good point. People take what they don't earn by not paying their workers a living wage, to me that is theft!

What would you deem a living wage for a 16 year old kid who lives at home and works during the summer?
 
Did you know that people in unions used to pay taxes? 50% of us no longer pay taxes at all... Those people would have never felt that it was just that they get something for nothing. Now that the top 50% of the earners pay all the taxes, how much more of the burden percentage do you think they should bear? Should we double it or triple it? Or maybe we can actually have some of that bottom pony up their fair share too.

A nation of looters who believe that the earnings of others is their just recompense. Fight to earn what you are worth rather than work as a branch of one political party and you might get people to join unions again. There is something to say for taking pride in paying your own fair share.

Oh good lord Damo.....you couldn't possibly be that dumb. It's soo freaken easy to disprove your contentions that it aint worth wasting the time.

Even if you're income is so low that you don't pay any affective Federal income tax you still have to pay a largely regressive payroll tax, state taxes, local/municipal taxes, sales taxes, etc, etc. You're just blabbering complete non-sense.

At the federal level the top 10% of income earners (and I'm just barely in that group myself) pay about 65% of Federal income taxes but control 60% of the wealth. That sounds about right to me considering the top 10% benefit disproportionately from government services.

Then let's also consider that most of the top 1% control 30% of the wealth on this nation don't pay much in the way of Federal "income" tax as most of their income comes from the sales of capital assets, such as stock, divedends, investment property, etc. That's taxed at a long term capital gains rate of 15%. That means the vast majority of those in that top 1% on a relative basis are only paying about 15% in Federal tax burden compared to people, like me, who are taxed at a 25% affective rate cause most of my income is coming from wages. Then lets consider that money is not a relative thing. It's an absolute one. A house cost so much, If I want to buy a decent home it's going to cost me $250,000 and not 25% of my income. A decent car is going to cost me $25,000 and not 25% of my income. So it's people in the middle and upper middle classes who get fucked by these stupid regressive taxation schemes. The only thing that would accomplish and is accomplishing is creating an aristocracy of idle wealthy in this nation as 30+ years of failed supply side folly has more the adequatly proven. Promoting investment is one thing but sanctifying investment income as being of more value to society then wage or productive income is class warfare no matter how you try to spin it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If the wealthy want to game the system with the low capital gains rates then I say fine. Let's go back to the 70% marginal tax rates that force them to invest it on a "use it or lose it" basis.

High marginal tax rates are not intended to punish the wealthy. It is intended to discourage the consolidation of to much wealth into to few hands which in turn creates social and political instability. it is also intended to keep money in circulation and to prevent a class of idle wealthy who sit on our valuable resources and do not put it to productive use from dominating our nations economic health and wealth!
 
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What would you deem a living wage for a 16 year old kid who lives at home and works during the summer?

The kid has a future too and he might be saving for college. I know kids who work their butts off on e slime line, I think they deserve to earn what the adult next to them is earning.

What do you think is a living wage for a teenager? I know a lot of teens who have to help support the family by buying their clothes and paying for car insurance and gas to get to and from work.

I know a lot of kids who live with their single mothers, and a couple who live with their grandparents. A couple of teenagers lived in Anchorsge while their mother moved to Valdez for a job. She helped with the rent when she could.

What kind of teens were you thinking about?
 
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