Pope Francis: 'Building Walls Means Condemning Yourself to Death'

Owl:
1. Loves 'Open Borders'.
2. Loves 'Diversity'.
3. Thinks America should be the Refuge to the World.
4. ... and may actually think everybody will have a Job making/fixing Robots.

At the same time ... doesn't want to live among the Millions of Diverse People.

Ya' see, Jade. This is why Trump Voters vote for Trump. You have the Coastal Elites telling average Americans what is Best for THEM, while the Elites live on their Estates and Islands, their Personal Gated Communities.

That's a pretty stupid reason for trump voters to vote for trump, given that he enjoys elite living in estates and high rises.
 
That's a pretty stupid reason for trump voters to vote for trump, given that he enjoys elite living in estates and high rises.

Christie, Christie, Christie.
'Being a Con Artist 101'. It's right there in the first chapter. Tell them what they want to hear.
Trump: "We will re-open the Coal Mines and bring back Manufacturing. Don't sell your homes".
Hillary: "We will put Coal Miners out of Business".

Now Christy, take a moment and be honest, ... which sound byte will get Votes?
 
Christie, Christie, Christie.
'Being a Con Artist 101'. It's right there in the first chapter. Tell them what they want to hear.
Trump: "We will re-open the Coal Mines and bring back Manufacturing. Don't sell your homes".
Hillary: "We will put Coal Miners out of Business".

Now Christy, take a moment and be honest, ... which sound byte will get Votes?

The trump quote will get votes from the kind of people who take everything at face value and not investigate too deeply on how he's going to make his promises happen.
 
Too bad the fake Christians don't get a spiritual comment. They take it so pathetically word for word literal it's embarrassing.

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Uh, yeah. Did you happen to notice, he's the President?

It doesn't speak well for people. I don't expect the voters at large to be as invested as we JPPers are but damn. Look at the record and the information, not the TV ratings.
 
It doesn't speak well for people. I don't expect the voters at large to be as invested as we JPPers are but damn. Look at the record and the information, not the TV ratings.

hahahahahahahaha ...
"I don't expect the voters at large to be as invested as we JPPers are ..."

Please stop, you're killing me!
 
Are you now Owl's Rudy Giuliani?

--->Dude. If YOU support 'Immigration', ... YOU should live among the 'Immigrants'.
NOT say "Immigration is*GREAT ... for OTHER people".
Does THAT compute?

She didn't move because of the immigrants. They aren't what is making St. Louis a less desirable place. You live where you feel best. I live in an area just like Owl, the same state even.

Anyway, she lives in Michigan. Who do you think tend to all those resorts, orchards, golf courses, etc? We also have all the Native American tribes and their casinos.
 
Are people you know IRL political fanatics?

From Poll:
Posted by Cypress:
"Not a decision to leap to lightly.
I need more data, I need the full weight of evidence to come to light, and I need assurance of reasonable corroboration."

Response from Christie: "Same here. The last thing I want is for trump to become a martyr because the Dems don't have all their ducks in a row."

Jack: If you and Cypress are still sitting there wondering if this guy is running a Criminal Enterprise out of the White House, maybe you should stick to the Cat Videos?
 
She didn't move because of the immigrants. They aren't what is making St. Louis a less desirable place. You live where you feel best. I live in an area just like Owl, the same state even.

Anyway, she lives in Michigan. Who do you think tend to all those resorts, orchards, golf courses, etc? We also have all the Native American tribes and their casinos.

I'm not going to discuss this with you any more.
Most people like 'elbow room'. If you want 'elbow room' for yourself and your children, why in the fuck do you want to import thousands and thousands of MORE people.

Let's believe what Andrew Yang is saying, that the Warehouses of Amazon will be filled with Robots and not Immigrants. What is the reason for importation of Third World Labor into the US?
 
From Poll:
Posted by Cypress:
"Not a decision to leap to lightly.
I need more data, I need the full weight of evidence to come to light, and I need assurance of reasonable corroboration."

Response from Christie: "Same here. The last thing I want is for trump to become a martyr because the Dems don't have all their ducks in a row."

Jack: If you and Cypress are still sitting there wondering if this guy is running a Criminal Enterprise out of the White House, maybe you should stick to the Cat Videos?

:rolleyes: I've been railing against trump on this forum for over four years, check the archives. I despise him. Of course he's running a criminal enterprise out of the WH, not to mention he's in dire need of a medical intervention for his deteriorating mental state.

I don't trust anything about him, not a single thing. Yet he's managed to hang onto power in spite of his obvious ineptitude and disinterest in learning the job, and he still has a group of hard-core supporters. So I'm not going to jump the gun about him resigning because he'll never do that. I want this investigation to produce air-tight evidence of his criminality so Congress has no choice but to impeach him. And when he's out of office I want NY to throw the book at him and lock him up for the rest of his miserable life.

Btw you didn't answer if the people you know IRL are political fanatics.
 
:rolleyes: I've been railing against trump on this forum for over four years, check the archives. I despise him. Of course he's running a criminal enterprise out of the WH, not to mention he's in dire need of a medical intervention for his deteriorating mental state.

I don't trust anything about him, not a single thing. Yet he's managed to hang onto power in spite of his obvious ineptitude and disinterest in learning the job, and he still has a group of hard-core supporters. So I'm not going to jump the gun about him resigning because he'll never do that. I want this investigation to produce air-tight evidence of his criminality so Congress has no choice but to impeach him. And when he's out of office I want NY to throw the book at him and lock him up for the rest of his miserable life.

Btw you didn't answer if the people you know IRL are political fanatics.

I don't believe most people here are 'political fanatics'. We all come with our opinions. It's nice to be able to voice them and hear what others have to say.
IMO, the Majority here are Far Right Religious Conservatives that seem to march in lockstep.

Below are a few that seem to be Moderates that support the Constitution, America, and Western Democracy.
1. archives.
2. Centerleftfl.
3. CharacterAssassin.
4. Cinnabar.
5. domer76.
6. Gonzomin.
7. Jarod.
8. Micawber.
9. reagansghost.
10. ... and a few others that I have probably missed.

The above AREN'T fence-sitters waiting to see which way the wind blows. They've come out and expressed what I think most Americans feel. The sooner Trump is removed from Office, the better.
 
I don't believe most people here are 'political fanatics'. We all come with our opinions. It's nice to be able to voice them and hear what others have to say.
IMO, the Majority here are Far Right Religious Conservatives that seem to march in lockstep.

Below are a few that seem to be Moderates that support the Constitution, America, and Western Democracy.
1. archives.
2. Centerleftfl.
3. CharacterAssassin.
4. Cinnabar.
5. domer76.
6. Gonzomin.
7. Jarod.
8. Micawber.
9. reagansghost.
10. ... and a few others that I have probably missed.

The above AREN'T fence-sitters waiting to see which way the wind blows. They've come out and expressed what I think most Americans feel. The sooner Trump is removed from Office, the better.

By fanatics I mean people who are interested enough in politics to keep up closely with what's going on, and to post opinions about it here. In other words, regulars on political forums. How many people do you know like this IRL? I know a few but most don't follow politics very closely and tend to go by sound bites.
 
I'm not going to discuss this with you any more.
Most people like 'elbow room'. If you want 'elbow room' for yourself and your children, why in the fuck do you want to import thousands and thousands of MORE people.

Let's believe what Andrew Yang is saying, that the Warehouses of Amazon will be filled with Robots and not Immigrants. What is the reason for importation of Third World Labor into the US?

I don't know what you don't get about country vs city living. Elbow room? Try living in smaller areas when they get an influx of summer tourists. Up here it's nuts. I'm sure both me and Owl would be happy with immigrants around more. They aren't the reason you leave a place like St. Louis. You leave St. Louis because it's becoming a red state shithole with very lax gun laws and a high level of crime. Most of the crime isn't from Immigrants.

Just like how she felt she had to leave St. Louis I'm now dreading because the family convinced Mom for us to move back to Ohio. So I get to move from a beautiful house near the lake to an area outside Dayton. That's Dayton, the place that had a massive tornado outbreak, a KKK rally, and a mass shooting all this year.
 
By fanatics I mean people who are interested enough in politics to keep up closely with what's going on, and to post opinions about it here. In other words, regulars on political forums. How many people do you know like this IRL? I know a few but most don't follow politics very closely and tend to go by sound bites.

Christie: "The trump quote will get votes from the kind of people who take everything at face value and not investigate too deeply on how he's going to make his promises happen."
Christie: "It doesn't speak well for people. I don't expect the voters at large to be as invested as we JPPers are but damn. Look at the record and the information, not the TV ratings."
Christie: "Are people you know IRL political fanatics?"

I'm not sure what your point is. I could go to a Klan Site and they would all be 'political fanatics' interested in what is going on. This is a Far Right Religious Conservative Site. They support Public Schools, but Public Heath ... that's Communism. Most Modern People don't believe in Man-Gods, here ... "fuck yeah that's Real!".

The Majority of people here, support Trump. IMO, that is NOT an accurate cross section of Americana.
 
How would you feel about a Panel of Healthy People (never been sick a day in their lives) making a Decision about Disability?
They would claim these people were Deadbeats, Lazy, just trying to 'beat the system'.
The Disabled would try to explain to the Panel that they were really sick, couldn't work, it wasn't their fault, and so on.
The Panel scoffed at their pleas and told them they weren't going to get any more Free Money and they needed to start to pull their own weight.

Would you feel the Panel should maybe be made up of a few people who were actually sick and had Disabilities? A few people who could actually identify with the needs of the Disabled?





I don't know what you don't get about country vs city living. Elbow room? Try living in smaller areas when they get an influx of summer tourists. Up here it's nuts. I'm sure both me and Owl would be happy with immigrants around more. They aren't the reason you leave a place like St. Louis. You leave St. Louis because it's becoming a red state shithole with very lax gun laws and a high level of crime. Most of the crime isn't from Immigrants.

Just like how she felt she had to leave St. Louis I'm now dreading because the family convinced Mom for us to move back to Ohio. So I get to move from a beautiful house near the lake to an area outside Dayton. That's Dayton, the place that had a massive tornado outbreak, a KKK rally, and a mass shooting all this year.
 
How would you feel about a Panel of Healthy People (never been sick a day in their lives) making a Decision about Disability?
They would claim these people were Deadbeats, Lazy, just trying to 'beat the system'.
The Disabled would try to explain to the Panel that they were really sick, couldn't work, it wasn't their fault, and so on.
The Panel scoffed at their pleas and told them they weren't going to get any more Free Money and they needed to start to pull their own weight.

Would you feel the Panel should maybe be made up of a few people who were actually sick and had Disabilities? A few people who could actually identify with the needs of the Disabled?

Of course, this figurative panel should but what does that have to do with you exaggerating the truth over Owl's again. Do you not read what you write?
 
Of course, this figurative panel should but what does that have to do with you exaggerating the truth over Owl's again. Do you not read what you write?

Owl doesn't work for a Living (like you). So, has no concept (like you) of what thousands and thousands of Third World Labor is doing to the American Working Class.
--->YOU don't want some person with no empathy towards disabled people to take YOUR check away from you.
--->The American Worker doesn't want some person that has no empathy for them to take THEIR check away from them.

(are you able to connect the dots here, or has this gone over your head?)
 
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