Poor GM...

[Howey]

a few years ago they built a battery plant here in Holland to produce batteries for the Chevy Volt.....my son worked there until a few weeks ago......yesterday he talked to a friend who is still there......they are crating up all the equipment to ship it back to Korea......in a year and a half they produced not a single battery for production runs.......

I don't want to doubt your son's word, but why would they ship the equipment back to Korea?

Across the state in Holland, Johnson Controls Inc. opened its lithium-ion battery cell plant last July. LG Chem is also building a $300 million factory in Holland to produce batteries for the Chevrolet Volt and electric Ford Focus, and received a $151.4 million grant. Obama used a visit to that plant last August to promote his program to create jobs through clean energy.

“At a time when Americans are rightly focused on our economy, when Americans are asking about what’s our path forward, all of you here at Johnson Controls are providing a powerful answer,” Obama said nearly a year ago. “This is one of the most advanced factories in the world. You’re helping America lead in a growing industry.”
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They're still building Volts at record (for the Volt) numbers. Plus the plant makes regular batteries and electric batteries for the Ford Focus. Give it time...

Chevrolet enjoyed another above average selling month in July, with 1,849 Volts moving into customers hands, the second best monthly result to date (2,289 were sold in March of this year). This figure was almost triple that of its main competitor, the somewhat extended range (11 miles at speed), Prius Plug-In, which Toyota only managed to move 695 copies of.

So far this year 10,666 Volts have been sold, and while GM will fall well short of an earlier ambitious projection (now rescinded) of 45,000 sold for 2012, it still represents a 271% increase over last year (2,870).

General Motors also passed another significant milestone last week, as the 30,000th production Volt rolled off their Hamtramck, Michigan assembly line. Thinking back to when the car first debuted as a concept at the 2007 NAIAS (also known as the Detroit Auto Show), the extended range car has come a long way.

Additionally, it doesn't look like the problem at Johnson Controls is GM's fault. There's plenty of room to spread the blame, from the state to manufacturers.

In Holland, Johnson Controls' battery plant has been affected by the recent bankruptcy of Azure Dynamics, which stopped production of an electric version of the Ford Transit Connect van. JCI supplied batteries for the vehicle. So far, there have been no layoffs or furloughs at the Holland plant, which employs just over 100 workers.

Despite these challenges, additional battery production capacity is being added this year. In addition to Dow Kokam's plant, LG Chem, which makes batteries for the Chevrolet Volt and Ford Focus Electric, is launching operations at its new factory in Holland.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Total bullshit.

My Crown Vic would beg to differ. Of course it's a 98.

 

[Althea]

I agree that short years ago your statement was correct. Not anymore...

The Comeback of the American Car


But then, I drive a Subaru.

I don't disagree about a comeback....it's just that the Americans are several laps behind, due to a poor business model years ago.

That said....GM is doing well in this country. It's other markets that affect the share price.



Subaru makes reliable cars as well. There are tons of the small 4 wds on the road here. They too, hold value for a long time.

 

[CanceledB]

I agree that short years ago your statement was correct. Not anymore...

The Comeback of the American Car


But then, I drive a Subaru.

Which one?

My son has an STI Turbo.

 

[Granule]

I'll make a deal with you SF.

If GM files for bankruptcy within the next six months I'll pay you $100. If not, you pay me $100.

Are you man enough to agree?

I'll take that bet if the government will get the fuck out of GM's business.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I don't want to doubt your son's word

smart choice.....you would look like a fucking idiot if you did....

Plus the plant makes regular batteries and electric batteries for the Ford Focus.

no it doesn't.....actually, the plant opened in May, 2011.....my son started there in August, 2011......during that time they made NO production batteries for the Volts and did nothing but produce training units which, except for a small percentage which were shipped to Korea for quality control testing, were broken down and destroyed at the end of each day......

They're still building Volts at record (for the Volt) numbers.

I recall my son calculating at one time that one employee would be able to produce enough batteries to keep up production demands for the Volt.....and that disregards the fact they already have a plant in Korea making batteries for the Volt.....

 

[Howey]

Which one?

My son has an STI Turbo.

'11 Legacy Limited.

 

[IVAN CHESNOKOV]

IS CLEAR TO IVAN THAT GM FAILURE IS GOVERNMENT FAILURE. AFTER ALL, DID GOVERNMENT NOT BUILD GM?

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

My Crown Vic would beg to differ. Of course it's a 98.

The older GM vehicles were great. I have had a '97 GMC 2500 and an '03 GMC Yukon as work vehicles. Both of them were solid, dependable trucks. The 2500 was a brute and could haul more, pull more, and run better than the Fords. I put 250k miles on the Yukon, and the only issues I ever had was with the a/c.

But the '08 Chev 1500s were junk. The company bought 5 and all of them had problems within the 1st year, with serious problems cropping up within 2 years.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

a few years ago they built a battery plant here in Holland to produce batteries for the Chevy Volt.....my son worked there until a few weeks ago......yesterday he talked to a friend who is still there......they are crating up all the equipment to ship it back to Korea......in a year and a half they produced not a single battery for production runs.......

Holland?? Michigan?

 

[Airstrip One]

Ivan speak truth to unwashed masses about GM.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The older GM vehicles were great. I have had a '97 GMC 2500 and an '03 GMC Yukon as work vehicles. Both of them were solid, dependable trucks. The 2500 was a brute and could haul more, pull more, and run better than the Fords. I put 250k miles on the Yukon, and the only issues I ever had was with the a/c.

But the '08 Chev 1500s were junk. The company bought 5 and all of them had problems within the 1st year, with serious problems cropping up within 2 years.

Oh modern GM cars are garbage. Same with Chrysler. But Fords are still awesome, even though they'll rust down to the frame.