Poll shows many Black Americans support SCOTUS affirmative action ruling

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You only listen/watch right wing radio! That explains A LOT!

THINK, toodles, THINK! If a highly nationally regarded local paper in one of the country's premier states carries a story (and has a google link to boot) that you claim is ignored by "major wing outlets" (of which you have yet to define/list/label), what makes you think the big three didn't cover the same story? It was on the affiliate stations of ABC, NBC & CBS here in New York. A simple google search of "mainor switch parties" reveals other coverage by the NY Times, CNN, etc.

In short, you're either ignorant, willfully ignorant or just lying your ass off with regards to fair news coverage of an important event.

JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT HAPPENING!

GTFU OR WTFU, will ya please?

Well yeah because the left wing sources censor the news they bring and don't cover stories like this.

So no shit.

Your insipid stubbornness covers one or all of the following: willful ignorance, genuine ignorance, MAGA troll ignorance.

As the chronology of the posts shows, first you claim "liberals" are not covering the Mainor story. I gave just ONE example of a LOCAL paper that is neutral that covered it. You dismissed it as "NOT a MSM" So when I pointed out the FACT that a simple google search revealed that CNN and the NY Times (deemed by the MAGA minions and right wing wonks as "liberal bias") covered the same, you just blather some new silliness that essentially reiterates your erroneous declaration.

There is no debating people like you, as you're essentially a dumb parrot waiting for the next mantra or talking point from NewsMax or the Orange Oaf....reality and facts be damned.

You're done. Prattle on.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Your insipid stubbornness covers one or all of the following: willful ignorance, genuine ignorance, MAGA troll ignorance.

As the chronology of the posts shows, first you claim "liberals" are not covering the Mainor story. I gave just ONE example of a LOCAL paper that is neutral that covered it. You dismissed it as "NOT a MSM" So when I pointed out the FACT that a simple google search revealed that CNN and the NY Times (deemed by the MAGA minions and right wing wonks as "liberal bias"), you just blather some new silliness that essentially reiterates your erroneous declaration.

There is no debating people like you, as you're essentially a dumb parrot waiting for the next mantra or talking point from NewsMax or the Orange Oaf....reality and facts be damned.

You're done. Prattle on.

All you could find was one local paper that covered it, nothing mainstream.

My point stands.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Your insipid stubbornness covers one or all of the following: willful ignorance, genuine ignorance, MAGA troll ignorance.

As the chronology of the posts shows, first you claim "liberals" are not covering the Mainor story. I gave just ONE example of a LOCAL paper that is neutral that covered it. You dismissed it as "NOT a MSM" So when I pointed out the FACT that a simple google search revealed that CNN and the NY Times covered the same (deemed by the MAGA minions and right wing wonks as "liberal bias"), you just blather some new silliness that essentially reiterates your erroneous declaration.

There is no debating people like you, as you're essentially a dumb parrot waiting for the next mantra or talking point from NewsMax or the Orange Oaf....reality and facts be damned.

You're done. Prattle on.

All you could find was one local paper that covered it, nothing mainstream.

My point stands.

There you have it, dear readers. Peachy is a prime example of what I described in the previous post (note the highlighted part). Like all MAGA mooks, he/she just covers the ears, closes the eyes and brays the SOS louder and consistently.

I move on to the next subject.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

There you have it, dear readers. Peachy is a prime example of what I described in the previous post (note the highlighted part). Like all MAGA mooks, he/she just covers the ears, closes the eyes and brays the SOS louder and consistently.

I move on to the next subject.

If they covered it why aren't you posting a link?

Seems easy enough to end this.

Do you not know how to copy and paste a link?

Go ahead.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
There you have it, dear readers. Peachy is a prime example of what I described in the previous post (note the highlighted part). Like all MAGA mooks, he/she just covers the ears, closes the eyes and brays the SOS louder and consistently.

I move on to the next subject.

If they covered it why aren't you posting a link?

Seems easy enough to end this.

Do you not know how to copy and paste a link?

Go ahead.

It took you time and effort to type this lame as dodge....are you telling the reading audience that you couldn't do a quick google input of the name "Mainor" with the words "party switch" and see the list of folk that carried the story?

No, this is just a time honored stall tactic by MAGA trolls to avoid the simple task of admitting they were wrong in an anonymous forum (Peachy's ego is fragile).

I usually don't do the homework for dumb toots like you, but I'm curious as to how you will maintain your initial claim in the face of contrary fact:



https://apnews.com/article/mesha-ma...tch-democrat-a725f1c3d5e827a05a95eb178194f80e

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/politics/georgia-lawmaker-party-switch-democrat-republican/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/us/politics/georgia-democrat-republican-mesha-mainor.html

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-congresswoman-flips-gop-blindly-followed-vision-1812316

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wir...nor-odds-party-switches-republicans-101112397


Carry on!

 

[Tinkerpeach]

It took you time and effort to type this lame as dodge....are you telling the reading audience that you couldn't do a quick google input of the name "Mainor" with the words "party switch" and see the list of folk that carried the story?

No, this is just a time honored stall tactic by MAGA trolls to avoid the simple task of admitting they were wrong in an anonymous forum (Peachy's ego is fragile).

I usually don't do the homework for dumb toots like you, but I'm curious as to how you will maintain your initial claim in the face of contrary fact:



https://apnews.com/article/mesha-ma...tch-democrat-a725f1c3d5e827a05a95eb178194f80e

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/politics/georgia-lawmaker-party-switch-democrat-republican/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/us/politics/georgia-democrat-republican-mesha-mainor.html

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-congresswoman-flips-gop-blindly-followed-vision-1812316

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wir...nor-odds-party-switches-republicans-101112397


Carry on!

lol, you fell for that?

Go jump through some more hoops doggy.

 

[Grokmaster]

AA is an INSULT to hard working, successful black students, just like the never-ending claims about how blacks are "too stuipid" to obtain IDs., register to vote, or even vote, according to the same people who are desperate to continue the racial INSULT of AA.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
It took you time and effort to type this lame as dodge....are you telling the reading audience that you couldn't do a quick google input of the name "Mainor" with the words "party switch" and see the list of folk that carried the story?

No, this is just a time honored stall tactic by MAGA trolls to avoid the simple task of admitting they were wrong in an anonymous forum (Peachy's ego is fragile).

I usually don't do the homework for dumb toots like you, but I'm curious as to how you will maintain your initial claim in the face of contrary fact:



https://apnews.com/article/mesha-mai...95eb178194f80e

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/polit...can/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/u...ha-mainor.html

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-...vision-1812316

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...cans-101112397


Carry on!

lol, you fell for that?

Go jump through some more hoops doggy.

And this is why intellectually impotent MAGA trolls are banned from a lot of folks threads. Caught flat footed wrong on a point (as the chronology of the exchange shows), they just BS, blow smoke and babble....ANYTHING but concede error.

No point in further engaging Peachy....she/he's just another attention seeking dumb MAGA troll exposing the bigotry found in that mindset.

Say goodnight Gracie, shows over for you.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

And this is why intellectually impotent MAGA trolls are banned from a lot of folks threads. Caught flat footed wrong on a point (as the chronology of the exchange shows), they just BS, blow smoke and babble....ANYTHING but concede error.

No point in further engaging Peachy....she/he's just another attention seeking dumb MAGA troll exposing the bigotry found in that mindset.

Say goodnight Gracie, shows over for you.

Not my fault you are gullible.

 

[Taichiliberal]

AA is an INSULT to hard working, successful black students, just like the never-ending claims about how blacks are "too stuipid" to obtain IDs., register to vote, or even vote, according to the same people who are desperate to continue the racial INSULT of AA.

Substitute "legacy students are" and "legacy students" for AA in your screed. What's that? You don't agree? Explain why, then we'll watch you dance and babble like a good little MAGA troll.

 

[Grokmaster]

Substitute "legacy students are" and "legacy students" for AA in your screed. What's that? You don't agree? Explain why, then we'll watch you dance and babble like a good little MAGA troll.

As always you don't know what the fuck you are blathering about..

"Legacy students" are students whose families have attended and contributed financially to the college/university in the past.

Has nothing to do with race, unlike AA, dumbfuck.

 

[Taichiliberal]

As always you don't know what the fuck you are blathering about..

"Legacy students" are students whose families have attended and contributed financially to the college/university in the past.

Has nothing to do with race, unlike AA, dumbfuck.

Old Grok is still off his crock, dear readers. For those with a reading comprehension beyond a H.S. GED, check out posts #12, 34, 49, 50 and 65 on this thread.

And if our intellectually impotent pal Grok STILL doesn't get it, I'll elaborate for him with excerpted responses to a like minded compadre of his on my thread The Good Old Days...:


The 14th Amendment states:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

- If you are part of the majority population, and the bulk of "legacy students" are from that majority, that means the a heavy faction of the majority population is relying NOT on academic prowess and competition, but on a form of academic nepotism coupled with a form of corruption and bribery (children of large financial donators).

- This means DOPES LIKE YOU THAT WOULD QUALIFY COLLEGE ENTRY ON MERITS WOULD BE DENIED A SEAT BECAUSE YOUR DADDY DIDN'T GO TO THAT COLLEGE AND/OR DIDN'T DONATE BIG BUCKS.

- The major complaint against AA was that it was reverse racism in denying qualified non-black students their justified placement in a university.

- Legacy does the same thing....more so to the effect of denying qualified students of all races, creeds & colors their justified placement in a university. That the vast majority of legacy students are from white upper middle class to rich parents, this insures the lack of diversity in a university. Although white students who are from working class, working middle class families are affected as well, they do not suffer the same stigma as black applicants all round. "Equal protection" would only apply to legacy students if their preferential treatment was not tied to the "club like" parts of a university's administrations.

- I realize that you want to try and justify this practice by using the time honored "if it doesn't say it specifically, then it doesn't exist" when it comes to the Constitution. Unfortunately for you, the Constitution is a labyrinth of statements that MUST be interpreted to fit an evolving nation of the centuries (Bill of Rights, Amendments, SCOTUS rulings). It's these interpretations that are constantly being debated and disseminated. That is why my point has validity, whether you like it or not.


Now I seriously doubt old Grok will even have the courage or mental capacity to debate the issue, much less concede a point. But since he chose to engage my posts on this thread to someone else, I can at least try to enlighten him. Hope springs eternal!

 

[Grokmaster]

Old Grok is still off his crock, dear readers. For those with a reading comprehension beyond a H.S. GED, check out posts #12, 34, 49, 50 and 65 on this thread.

And if our intellectually impotent pal Grok STILL doesn't get it, I'll elaborate for him with excerpted responses to a like minded compadre of his on my thread The Good Old Days...:


The 14th Amendment states:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

- If you are part of the majority population, and the bulk of "legacy students" are from that majority, that means the a heavy faction of the majority population is relying NOT on academic prowess and competition, but on a form of academic nepotism coupled with a form of corruption and bribery (children of large financial donators).

- This means DOPES LIKE YOU THAT WOULD QUALIFY COLLEGE ENTRY ON MERITS WOULD BE DENIED A SEAT BECAUSE YOUR DADDY DIDN'T GO TO THAT COLLEGE AND/OR DIDN'T DONATE BIG BUCKS.

- The major complaint against AA was that it was reverse racism in denying qualified non-black students their justified placement in a university.

- Legacy does the same thing....more so to the effect of denying qualified students of all races, creeds & colors their justified placement in a university. That the vast majority of legacy students are from white upper middle class to rich parents, this insures the lack of diversity in a university. Although white students who are from working class, working middle class families are affected as well, they do not suffer the same stigma as black applicants all round. "Equal protection" would only apply to legacy students if their preferential treatment was not tied to the "club like" parts of a university's administrations.

- I realize that you want to try and justify this practice by using the time honored "if it doesn't say it specifically, then it doesn't exist" when it comes to the Constitution. Unfortunately for you, the Constitution is a labyrinth of statements that MUST be interpreted to fit an evolving nation of the centuries (Bill of Rights, Amendments, SCOTUS rulings). It's these interpretations that are constantly being debated and disseminated. That is why my point has validity, whether you like it or not.


Now I seriously doubt old Grok will even have the courage or mental capacity to debate the issue, much less concede a point. But since he chose to engage my posts on this thread to someone else, I can at least try to enlighten him. Hope springs eternal!

For TackyPantload, allow me to explain; LOWERED ACADEMIC STANDARDS, BASED ON RACE , INSULTS MINORITY STUSDENTS, ASK THEM, no matter how asininely you try to spin it.

Legacy students are recognized as those whose families have succeeded there, and are financial contributors as well.

Just like the left's racist lies about how VOTER ID IS TOO HARD FOR BLACK VOTERS...MORE RACIST INSULTS:

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Old Grok is still off his crock, dear readers. For those with a reading comprehension beyond a H.S. GED, check out posts #12, 34, 49, 50 and 65 on this thread.

And if our intellectually impotent pal Grok STILL doesn't get it, I'll elaborate for him with excerpted responses to a like minded compadre of his on my thread The Good Old Days...:


The 14th Amendment states:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

- If you are part of the majority population, and the bulk of "legacy students" are from that majority, that means the a heavy faction of the majority population is relying NOT on academic prowess and competition, but on a form of academic nepotism coupled with a form of corruption and bribery (children of large financial donators).

- This means DOPES LIKE YOU THAT WOULD QUALIFY COLLEGE ENTRY ON MERITS WOULD BE DENIED A SEAT BECAUSE YOUR DADDY DIDN'T GO TO THAT COLLEGE AND/OR DIDN'T DONATE BIG BUCKS.

- The major complaint against AA was that it was reverse racism in denying qualified non-black students their justified placement in a university.

- Legacy does the same thing....more so to the effect of denying qualified students of all races, creeds & colors their justified placement in a university. That the vast majority of legacy students are from white upper middle class to rich parents, this insures the lack of diversity in a university. Although white students who are from working class, working middle class families are affected as well, they do not suffer the same stigma as black applicants all round. "Equal protection" would only apply to legacy students if their preferential treatment was not tied to the "club like" parts of a university's administrations.

- I realize that you want to try and justify this practice by using the time honored "if it doesn't say it specifically, then it doesn't exist" when it comes to the Constitution. Unfortunately for you, the Constitution is a labyrinth of statements that MUST be interpreted to fit an evolving nation of the centuries (Bill of Rights, Amendments, SCOTUS rulings). It's these interpretations that are constantly being debated and disseminated. That is why my point has validity, whether you like it or not.


Now I seriously doubt old Grok will even have the courage or mental capacity to debate the issue, much less concede a point. But since he chose to engage my posts on this thread to someone else, I can at least try to enlighten him. Hope springs eternal!

For TackyPantload, allow me to explain; LOWERED ACADEMIC STANDARDS, BASED ON RACE , INSULTS MINORITY STUSDENTS, ASK THEM, no matter how asininely you try to spin it.

Legacy students are recognized as those whose families have succeeded there, and are financial contributors as well.

Just like the left's racist lies about how VOTER ID IS TOO HARD FOR BLACK VOTERS...MORE RACIST INSULTS:

Okay, once more for the mentally challenged trolls out there....piece by piece:

1. The opening two words of this sentence seems to be written by a pre-schooler....which might explain a lot of Grok's drivel on this site. The rest of his sentence here is not quite correct....hasn't been since 1978 Bakke decision.

2. Repeating a moot point on legacy students does NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT AS WITH THE INITIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION MANDATES LEGACY STUDENTS ARE ADMITTED DESPITE NOT HAVING THE GRADES TO DO SO. A primary example, former President G. W. Bush getting into Harvard and Yale. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

3. Throwing in yet another misleading MAGA mantra doesn't sell your case. I know you won't read this thoroughly....it's really for the objective reader to see your folly: https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/aclu_voter_id_fact_sheet_-_final_1.pdf

4. The video clip you present is based on a misleading question (see #1-4).


You may now repeat your blather or produce more of the SOS.

 

[Grokmaster]

Okay, once more for the mentally challenged trolls out there....piece by piece:

1. The opening two words of this sentence seems to be written by a pre-schooler....which might explain a lot of Grok's drivel on this site. The rest of his sentence here is not quite correct....hasn't been since 1978 Bakke decision.

2. Repeating a moot point on legacy students does NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT AS WITH THE INITIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION MANDATES LEGACY STUDENTS ARE ADMITTED DESPITE NOT HAVING THE GRADES TO DO SO. A primary example, former President G. W. Bush getting into Harvard and Yale. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

3. Throwing in yet another misleading MAGA mantra doesn't sell your case. I know you won't read this thoroughly....it's really for the objective reader to see your folly: https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/aclu_voter_id_fact_sheet_-_final_1.pdf

4. The video clip you present is based on a misleading question (see #1-4).


You may now repeat your blather or produce more of the SOS.

Anything RACE-BASED is "RACISM" by definition, dullard.



What a fucking imbecile.

 

[QP!]

Without a doubt.

The slander of AA as something that put unqualified PoC in positions has been one of the most effective lies the right has been able to spread as a way to protect their advantages while disadvantaging PoC.

Even Clarence Thomas admits those lies are what drive his hate for AA. At every single stage of Thomas education and career advancement, he was qualified for the job, but came on to the hiring radar as people in hiring positions were considering forms of AA. Despite being qualified he was continual dogged by white peers as not being qualified and only getting the spot due to AA and he speaks to how much that hurt him.

Instead of hating those ignorant people who lied and smeared him he began to hate AA and think he, as a qualified person, would have been better off if there was no AA and thus no smears. So he then became the main opponent of AA while forgetting he would not be where he was without it.


So yes, i can absolutely believe the OP, as the smears and lies from the right and ignorant and bigoted people have been verry successful.


AA does not give advantage. It levels an unfair playing field rife with historical and built in advantage for whites. They have had their own forms of AA for over a hundred years and want to maintain those advantages and slow PoC gains.

 

[tigerred59]

As black Americans move further and further away from Uncle Sam's Plantation, as the same old race-baiting bullshit is starting to fall on deaf ears...even amongst black Americans.





Poll shows many Black Americans support SCOTUS affirmative action ruling






A Thursday Washington Post article weighed in on last week’s U.S. Supreme Court decision to dismantle affirmative action practices in college admissions, citing a poll showing that African Americans are "unlikely to strongly object" to the decision.

The poll also demonstrated that more Black Americans strongly support the ruling rather than oppose it, though the paper argued that the demographic has little "perceived personal connection to the policy," that "Affirmative action is difficult to poll," and that people like "race-blind policies in theory but less so in practice."

The Post staff writer Aaron Blake penned the analysis of the poll, declaring that, in line with his previous assessment that the Supreme Court’s decision "seemed unlikely to spark a significant backlash," the new poll shows that "even Black Americans are unlikely to strongly object" to it.


He noted how, "The data, from an Economist/YouGov poll conducted after the Supreme Court’s decision, shows Americans approving of it more than 2-to-1." Blake added, "Another poll conducted after the decision, for ABC News, showed Americans approved of it by a 20-point margin."

Citing the Black people surveyed in the Economist/YouGov poll, he added, "Indeed, more of them actually approved of the decision (more than 4 in 10) than disapproved (fewer than 4 in 10). And more Black Americans ‘strongly’ approved (31 percent) than disapproved (26 percent)."

Blake pointed out that while polls have historically shown "Black Americans in favor of affirmative action" generally, other polls have shown that the group has "supported banning the use of race and ethnicity in admissions."





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...p&cvid=bb1daf0c898f4811911dddcc21d95112&ei=23

Truth be told the only fuckin ppl that truly benefited from AA and Asians and white women....end of story!!

 

[tigerred59]

There are 34 million blacks in this country and polls round about 1200 of em....nuf said

 

[Taichiliberal]

Okay, once more for the mentally challenged trolls out there....piece by piece:

1. The opening two words of this sentence seems to be written by a pre-schooler....which might explain a lot of Grok's drivel on this site. The rest of his sentence here is not quite correct....hasn't been since 1978 Bakke decision.

2. Repeating a moot point on legacy students does NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT AS WITH THE INITIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION MANDATES LEGACY STUDENTS ARE ADMITTED DESPITE NOT HAVING THE GRADES TO DO SO. A primary example, former President G. W. Bush getting into Harvard and Yale. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

3. Throwing in yet another misleading MAGA mantra doesn't sell your case. I know you won't read this thoroughly....it's really for the objective reader to see your folly: https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/f..._-_final_1.pdf

4. The video clip you present is based on a misleading question (see #1-4).


You may now repeat your blather or produce more of the SOS.

Anything RACE-BASED is "RACISM" by definition, dullard.



What a fucking imbecile.

Care to produce the source of your "definition"? Or are you just pulling more nonsense out of your rear end? Also, you shouldn't stare at the mirror when you blather your last sentence.

Remember, preferential treatment whether based on race or nepotism is still essentially preferential treatment ... which is unfair to all those college applicants. So if you remove one, you remove all.

 

[Taichiliberal]

There are 34 million blacks in this country and polls round about 1200 of em....nuf said

WTF are you babbling about now, you sheet wearing schmuck? Repeating something that was already addressed and debunked won't make it magically come true. PAY ATTENTION!