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Because it's kind of funny but not really:

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Kevin Hassett is a McCain economic advisor.
 
The idea that a market plunge the day after means the bailout "didn't work" is silly.

The bailout is about severity. We're basically in a recession; the bailout's hopes were to make that recession shorter & less deep. Here's hoping on that one; I don't think today means it "isn't working."

And, yeah - everyone is affected by a plunging market, unless whatever you do doesn't rely on anyone else or any other business or customers or money.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/05/wall.street.bailout

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I don't really. It it becomes necessary I will just shut the doors on my business. I still have plenty aside from that to live out the rest of my life on.
I think my business will do ok though. My basic business model is to succeed while my competitiors fail. working fine so far.

And, in my position at a non-profit organization which enjoys such widespread and deep community support that it’s going to be the last thing any politician cuts funding for, I don’t see how I’d be effected either.
This doesn’t change the fact that I’m the exception and far from the rule.
A lot of people are sweating their jobs right now. Ordinary people with families to feed and keep housed.
I seriously dislike this notion that somehow this is a sweet deal because hedge fund managers are getting it in the ass. Wake up, hedge fund managers have their asses covered. And even if some of those type were getting theirs, is it worth the cost of so many out of work? Of course it isn’t. It is quite disgusting to take pleasure in this. (not saying you are usc)
 
No Darla I feel the pain of those around me. And I will keep my business open as long as I can for the benefit of my employees.
I do however feel a bit of pleasure in being correct about waht was coming, not any pleaseure for the effects though. I tried to warn the greedy bastards and change the future. but alas. they just called me the fool.

btw from toppys posts looks like this has hit him pretty hard. the gal is plumb loopy sounding.
 
No Darla I feel the pain of those around me. And I will keep my business open as long as I can for the benefit of my employees.
I do however feel a bit of pleasure in being correct about waht was coming, not any pleaseure for the effects though. I tried to war the greedy bastards and change the future. but alas. they just called me the fool.

btw from toppys posts looks like this has hit him pretty hard. the gal is plumb loopy sounding.

LOL
 
The ripple effect is huge on this. If the market does really crash - like, 20% in value - people are really going to suffer. The people who already have a few million in the bank won't; they're "suffering" is basically downgrading their vacation plans from Bali to Hawaii.

It's people at the lower end, and small business owners, and anyone who relies on gov't assistance - basically, those who are having difficulty right now, anyway.
 
And SF put me on ignore when his capitualtion thing did not play out back in the summer. Head in the sand mentality.
 
The ripple effect is huge on this. If the market does really crash - like, 20% in value - people are really going to suffer. The people who already have a few million in the bank won't; they're "suffering" is basically downgrading their vacation plans from Bali to Hawaii.

It's people at the lower end, and small business owners, and anyone who relies on gov't assistance - basically, those who are having difficulty right now, anyway.
My business does not depend on credit for inventory or anything like that. I borrowed 100K plus a few weeks ago for an expansion. 1 yr note.
 
The ripple effect is huge on this. If the market does really crash - like, 20% in value - people are really going to suffer. The people who already have a few million in the bank won't; they're "suffering" is basically downgrading their vacation plans from Bali to Hawaii.

It's people at the lower end, and small business owners, and anyone who relies on gov't assistance - basically, those who are having difficulty right now, anyway.

I'm not trying to slam you but, since the peak we're down about 30%
 
I know sweetie, but this is a war on the super rich. Eventually they'll have to come off their high horses and do something decent and good for a change, because there is no way they will ever get their hands dirty and work hard for their money. They'll be jumping out of windows, hanging themselves and blowing their brains out before ever considiring hard work.
False sterotype. 82% of millionaires are first generation millionaires, that is to say they attained that status by themselves.

"Only 19% receive any income or wealth of any kind from a trust fund or an estate.

Fewer that 20% inherited 10% or more of their wealth.

More than half never received as much as $1 in inheritance.

Fewer than 25% ever received "an act of kindness" of $10,000 or more from their parents, grandparents, or other relatives.

91% never received, as a gift, as much as $1 of the ownership of a family business.

Nearly half never received any college tuition from their parents or other relatives.

Fewer than 10% believe they will ever receive an inheritance in the future.
No, many of today's millionaires were not born with a leg up. They were born just as many of us were -- with no special financial advantages. Yet they were able to become much wealthier than most."
http://www.freemoneyfinance.com/mnd/index.html
 
Does your business depend on customers?

Yes, but I just got a govt contract by undercutting the competition. And they can reduce the business in hard times but not cut it out.
And 2 of my competitors have gone out of business while mine has grown.
 
The bailout was suppose to restore confidence, it's really worked so far!!

you really are an emotional tool. The bailout passing does nothing by itself.... especially since they already blew the chance to instill confidence by voting it down the first time. But Lorax is correct. This is designed to loosen up credit. It is not an overnight miracle pill that will solve the problems of the world in a day. It is not going to prevent a recession. It is designed to make it shallower.

But I know... you are an economic guru, just like toppy.
 
you really are an emotional tool. The bailout passing does nothing by itself.... especially since they already blew the chance to instill confidence by voting it down the first time. But Lorax is correct. This is designed to loosen up credit. It is not an overnight miracle pill that will solve the problems of the world in a day. It is not going to prevent a recession. It is designed to make it shallower.

But I know... you are an economic guru, just like toppy.

So in other words it’s designed to ensure that Americans can never definitively know whether it helped at all. We will have to accept the assurances that “it could have been worse”. I always have hated when something bad has happened and anyone told me that. I always feel like saying, I can punch you in the nose and then it will get worse.
 
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