Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In Calif.

But high times are changing. Legal pot, under the guise of the California's medical marijuana laws, has spurred a rush of new competition. As a result, the wholesale price of pot grown in these areas is plunging.
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These guys need a government bale out.

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Southern Man said:
Wrong. It would award the cartels.
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Mexican cartels don't sell high quality hydroponic, they sell lower quality product for lower prices. Right now, only 30 miles from the border, you can buy oz's of low quality stuff all day long for 80 bucks/oz. There are still your california botique brands that are going for 20-80 dollars a gram, but most don't smoke it. With legalization high quality dope will be the norm, ANYONE will be able to grow it, but not willing to make the initial investment in equipment. Hydro will go down in price, there will be zero demand for mexican headache weed, except by those same people that drink coors and bud and don't care what ANYTHING taste like or how shitty the buzz.
 
Big Gay Al said:
Please, good sir, name a single ill effect of marijuana.
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http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html

"I must preface these statements with the remark that there is still a great deal of research to be done concerning the effects of marijuana on the health of humans due to the fact that widespread marijuana use has only become prevalent in this country within the last three decades, so the effects of long-term use are just beginning to become apparent."

EFFECTS OF HABITUAL MARIJUANA USE ON THE IMMUNE SYSTEM

The most potent argument against the use of marijuana to treat medical disorders is that marijuana may cause the acceleration or aggravation of the very disorders it is being used to treat.

Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi, bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems, this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections, including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients

RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES

The main respiratory consequences of smoking marijuana regularly (one joint a day) are pulmonary infections and respiratory cancer, whose connection to marijuana use has been strongly suggested but not conclusively proven.

Marijuana smoke and cigarette smoke contain many of the same toxins, including one which has been identified as a key factor in the promotion of lung cancer. This toxin is found in the tar phase of both, and it should be noted that one joint has four times more tar than a cigarette, which means that the lungs are exposed four-fold to this toxin and others in the tar. It has been concretely established that smoking cigarettes promotes lung cancer (which causes more than 125,000 deaths in the US every year), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema) and increased incidence of respiratory tract infections.

MENTAL HEALTH, BRAIN FUNCTION, AND MEMORY

It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, (Can anyone say Topper?) depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness.

Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.



For further information, you may find the following sites helpful:

www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/reality/updatejl.html, for information on links between marijuana use and mental health risks.
www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/mrr/21.96.10.html, for more information on the indirect effects of marijuana on health
http://www.adf.org.au/drughit, the Australian Drug Foundation�s website
http://marijuananews.com/a_safe_ high_.htm, a reprint of New Science magazine�s "Marijuana Special Report: A Safe High?" with commentary
http://marijuananews.com/claim_four.htm, an article about the similarity of long-term marijuana use�s effect on the brain to that of "hard" drugs, with commentary
www.drugs.indiana.edu/publications/iprc/misc/smokescreen.html, for general information on the health risks of marijuana.
http://www.health.org, the homepage of the National Clearinghouse on Alcohol and Drug Information, for general information on marijuana.
 
RStringfield said:
Like repeal of prohibition rewarded the bootleggers and moonshiners. Maybe, you guys are worried the Mexicans will follow the same path and take over NASCAR.
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The cartels aren't the small guys. They are the Bacardi's of the drug industry:

When Prohibition was repealed in December 1933 Bacardi was ready to fill the gap. Enrique promptly sent his son-in-law Jose to New York City to pave the way for Bacardi's distribution in the United States. Back in Cuba the political climate was once again boiling as Fulgencio Batista y Zaldivar, the country's army chief of staff, became Cuba's de facto ruler after a military coup. Unfettered by its tropical roots, Bacardi entered the U.S. marketplace in a bang--selling over 80,000 cases in 1934. To save the company the United States' expensive import duty tax (nearly $1 per bottle), Jose Bosch decided to open another Bacardi facility in Old San Juan, Puerto Rico. Under American control since the Treaty of Paris in 1901, Puerto Rico was considered U.S. soil and its exports duty free. Under the name Bacardi Corporation, the new company soon moved to larger accommodations across the bay in Catano.
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http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Bacardi-Limited-Company-History.html
 
Socrtease said:
Mexican cartels don't sell high quality hydroponic, they sell lower quality product for lower prices. Right now, only 30 miles from the border, you can buy oz's of low quality stuff all day long for 80 bucks/oz. There are still your california botique brands that are going for 20-80 dollars a gram, but most don't smoke it. With legalization high quality dope will be the norm, ANYONE will be able to grow it, but not willing to make the initial investment in equipment. Hydro will go down in price, there will be zero demand for mexican headache weed, except by those same people that drink coors and bud and don't care what ANYTHING taste like or how shitty the buzz.
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The cartels will have the funding and infrastructure in place to grow it in numerous ways.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html

"I must preface these statements with the remark that there is still a great deal of research to be done concerning the effects of marijuana on the health of humans due to the fact that widespread marijuana use has only become prevalent in this country within the last three decades, so the effects of long-term use are just beginning to become apparent."

EFFECTS OF HABITUAL MARIJUANA USE ON THE IMMUNE SYSTEM

The most potent argument against the use of marijuana to treat medical disorders is that marijuana may cause the acceleration or aggravation of the very disorders it is being used to treat.

Smoking marijuana regularly (a joint a day) can damage the cells in the bronchial passages which protect the body against inhaled microorganisms and decrease the ability of the immune cells in the lungs to fight off fungi, bacteria, and tumor cells. For patients with already weakened immune systems, this means an increase in the possibility of dangerous pulmonary infections, including pneumonia, which often proves fatal in AIDS patients

RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES

The main respiratory consequences of smoking marijuana regularly (one joint a day) are pulmonary infections and respiratory cancer, whose connection to marijuana use has been strongly suggested but not conclusively proven.

Marijuana smoke and cigarette smoke contain many of the same toxins, including one which has been identified as a key factor in the promotion of lung cancer. This toxin is found in the tar phase of both, and it should be noted that one joint has four times more tar than a cigarette, which means that the lungs are exposed four-fold to this toxin and others in the tar. It has been concretely established that smoking cigarettes promotes lung cancer (which causes more than 125,000 deaths in the US every year), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (chronic bronchitis and emphysema) and increased incidence of respiratory tract infections.

MENTAL HEALTH, BRAIN FUNCTION, AND MEMORY

It has been suggested that marijuana is at the root of many mental disorders, including acute toxic psychosis, panic attacks (one of the very conditions it is being used experimentally to treat), flashbacks, delusions, (Can anyone say Topper?) depersonalization, hallucinations, paranoia, depression, and uncontrollable aggressiveness.

Marijuana has long been known to trigger attacks of mental illness, such as bipolar (manic-depressive) psychosis and schizophrenia. This connection with mental illness should make health care providers for terminally ill patients and the patients themselves, who may already be suffering from some form of clinical depression, weigh very carefully the pros and cons of adopting a therapeutic course of marijuana.



For further information, you may find the following sites helpful:

www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/reality/updatejl.html, for information on links between marijuana use and mental health risks.
www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/mrr/21.96.10.html, for more information on the indirect effects of marijuana on health
http://www.adf.org.au/drughit, the Australian Drug Foundation�s website
http://marijuananews.com/a_safe_ high_.htm, a reprint of New Science magazine�s "Marijuana Special Report: A Safe High?" with commentary
http://marijuananews.com/claim_four.htm, an article about the similarity of long-term marijuana use�s effect on the brain to that of "hard" drugs, with commentary
www.drugs.indiana.edu/publications/iprc/misc/smokescreen.html, for general information on the health risks of marijuana.
http://www.health.org, the homepage of the National Clearinghouse on Alcohol and Drug Information, for general information on marijuana.
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Yeah.... but other than that.... Pot's not really bad for you, is it? :cof1:
 
Southern Man said:
The cartels will have the funding and infrastructure in place to grow it in numerous ways.
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High quality marijuana is easy to grow without much capital. So funding isn't much of advantage. Their infrastructure is geared around illegal markets. They don't have connections with legal retailers. So what use is their "infrastructure."

Some of them might go legit. So? Violence is a viable business practice in the black markets, not in legal ones. If they go legit they will fail quickly if they continue to use violent practices.
 
the tabacco companies will put the cartels and the home growers out of business, they are already buying land in Modesto Cali.
 
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