christiefan915
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There is no rationale. These people get fearful and uncomfortable over learning any negative facts about the US. They want to portray the country as all rainbows and unicorns.
Please explain/justify this
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There is no rationale. These people get fearful and uncomfortable over learning any negative facts about the US. They want to portray the country as all rainbows and unicorns.
We are not perfect, Miss Marple but would you prefer to live in another country?
christiefan915
Catalyst
In all my years of schooling I never once saw a family or wedding photo on a teacher's desk. This is not to say it never occurred but I doubt it's widespread.
My youngest is a (for real) special ed teacher. She has photos of her family on the walls in her classroom, along with photos of her students and their families supplied by their parents. When she was having to teach remotely during the pandemic, she sometimes had my g-daughter "help" by sitting by her when she was reading to the class.
But I never saw that when I was in school with one exception. Mrs. Jones, the h.s. PE teacher, had a pic in her office of her and her husband at a Cardinals baseball game. The only reason I remember it is because she seemed to dislike me because I loathe playing or watching sports, exc. for the Cards back then. lol
christiefan915
Catalyst
^ Thanks, same here. Certainly not in the Catholic schools but also not in the public schools and colleges I attended.
It was hysteria, looking back today, not justified, repudiation of Korematsu case proved it, and many of those interned were American citizens
Since you admit not knowing the content of the book other than what's reported, why would you object to it then? Because some poutraged RWNJ parent(s) did? What, exactly, are you people afraid of?
Let's pretend for a moment that the book was written not just to tell a personal story of a family's experience, but to tell the larger story of the travesty of that period in American history. A lot of your cohort are calling that "indoctrination." Do you agree with that? If so, can you explain just why it is so awful to use this sort of literary vehicle in a literature class? (Keep in mind that literature often deals with unpleasant times in history, i.e., some of Dickens' work for example.) Were you one of those who thought that the Holocaust memoir "Maus" should not be allowed for h.s. age students?
So, the ultra liberal president, FDR was hysterical.
No Anchovies, he was doing what had to be done to win a world war that we had no guarantee of winning. In fact, we were losing for a large part of that war.
Truman did what he had to do to win that war also, and save 100,000 American military lives.
Poor Anchovies,
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One of my friends just posted something about 53% of Americans ages 16-74 read at a 6th grade level or less, according to the Dept. of Education. I'm beginning to understand why.
Not only were they deprived of their right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness -- they also had their personal property confiscated.
You are not speaking German or Japanese due to these measures taken by your liberal president, FDR, to save American lives during a world war.
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The NY post which is a tabloid is written at a 6th grade level
didnt know that. then it's fine as literature.
a good teacher would add context, but the book is clearly worthy of being taught as literature
T. A. Gardner
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I can object based on reading reviews and on the basis of descriptions of the book that are readily available. What your objection amounts to is a logical fallacy in the form of the Courtier's reply. I could level the same claim towards you. That is If you don't know the content of the book how can you recommend it?
The rest of your response amounts to a Special pleading. It amounts to an argument for Critical Pedagogy in which the English class by choosing this book becomes a teachable moment amounting to political indoctrination. That is, you recommend the book not on its literary content, which would be appropriate to an English class, but on its historical and political content. How is that appropriate as the reason to choose the book in an English class?
Maus is fine as high school literature. But it shouldn't be used in an English class, for example, if the intent is to teach about the Holocaust rather than improve the student's writing and speaking abilities. If a student chose the book for say, a book report that'd be fine since the intent of the lesson is to get the student to write better.
What you continue to do is conflate this book's indoctrination and propaganda value because of its subject matter with its value as a literary work. English class shouldn't be an opportunity for those teaching in a public school to subtly push a political agenda on the students.
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but that's ridiculous, even if true.
it's a dramatic mostly false media manipulation. yeah. maybe a couple teachers say they did that.
they're patsies.
It is, and so are most of the other Reichwing sources I've read, particularly the blogs and Breitbart and so on.
Poor pEarl. Can you get him some smelling salts? He's definitely having a huge freak-out over this and those icky icky gays as well. It really smarts when the tanks of truth roll over his dumb ass.
No doubt the same ppl who are poutraged about this book were just fine with Anne Frank and didn't demand "context." Funny how that works, isn't it?