Petraeus Says Quran Burning Endangers War Effort .

Onceler said:
Just like Yurtsie, you're confusing motivation w/ justification. I don't doubt what motivated McVeigh, and I don't doubt what motivates an abortion doc murderer. But that doesn't JUSTIFY their actions.

You guys really have a hard, hard time w/ that concept. But neither of you is the sharpest tool in the shed, exactly....
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and once again you trot out this lame argument that was torn to shreds just yesterday....

no one has ever said YOU or any other idiot JUSTIFIES the actions of a few wackos....we take issue with you BLAMING the pastor...

you do this all the time, you are told something, and then act as if the conversation never happened...go find ONE post where someone claims you or anyone else JUSTIFIES the harm or deaths by a few wacko muslims...

go to it or admit you just caught in yet another lie, despite getting busted for the same lie yesterday
 
Onceler said:
Just like Yurtsie, you're confusing motivation w/ justification. I don't doubt what motivated McVeigh, and I don't doubt what motivates an abortion doc murderer. But that doesn't JUSTIFY their actions.

You guys really have a hard, hard time w/ that concept. But neither of you is the sharpest tool in the shed, exactly....
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I never used the word "justify" and didn't imply that conclusion....you did....

you mis-state what is posted and claim you're correct and others are not....

The pastor is not to blame for any deaths....

do you agree with that unambiguous statement ?
 
Yurt said:
yes you did....it is hilarious you would deny it...i've explained to you in no less than 5 posts and showed you your words every single time....but you still deny it

no surprise though, you're the board's number one liar, you get busted at least once a week and you just got busted again...i mean really onceler...why do you deny you said things in a thread when you're repeatedly shown where you said them? its like you think your words don't exist in writing on the board and they magically disappear after you say them.

its petulant and immature...do you wear depends?
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Is this what extreme desperation looks like? More likely pathology.

You're busted in 3 more lies, Yurtsie. You haven't shown me anything; I didn't say any of the things you said I did. I actually feel a little bad for you...it's weird...
 
bravo said:
Chilling is putting it mildly....

Petraeus is saying the actions of one person is to blame, for murderers murdering innocent people 4000 miles away....

Thats nonsense....

the nut the bombed the building in OK did it because of the actions of the ATF and Janet Reno in Waco.....
did you or anyone actually try to put the blame for the bombing on Reno ?
Of course not....but that was McVeys stated reason....
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to be clear...petraeus is not solely blaming him, he is, however, putting partial blame on the pastor and that is complete nonsense....and you're right about the chilling and good point on the mcveigh analogy....no one blames the ATF for the actions of a psycho, but the good liberals and amazingly some cons, think its ok to blame the pastor....you know why? because deep down they are bigots who believe muslims are incapable of rational thought and self control.
 
bravo said:
I never used the word "justify" and didn't imply that conclusion....you did....

you mis-state what is posted and claim you're correct and others are not....

The pastor is not to blame for any deaths....

do you agree with that unambiguous statement ?
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He's definitely not to blame in the way that YOU stated Petraeus said...
 
Onceler said:
Is this what extreme desperation looks like? More likely pathology.

You're busted in 3 more lies, Yurtsie. You haven't shown me anything; I didn't say any of the things you said I did. I actually feel a little bad for you...it's weird...
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And you just accused me of trying to JUSTIFY McVeighs action...to quote you, " I didn't say any of the things you said I did."

Just like Yurtsie, you're confusing motivation w/ justification. I don't doubt what motivated McVeigh, and I don't doubt what motivates an abortion doc murderer. But that doesn't JUSTIFY their actions. '........Onceler
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Onceler said:
Is this what extreme desperation looks like? More likely pathology.

You're busted in 3 more lies, Yurtsie. You haven't shown me anything; I didn't say any of the things you said I did. I actually feel a little bad for you...it's weird...
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YOU CAN'T READ!!!!! YOU'RE PATHOLOGICAL!!!!! YOU'RE STUPID!!!!!!! YOU'RE A HACK!!!!!

^a typical debate with onceler will always end with one or more of the above^

:lol:
 
Yurt said:
LOL....finally backing of the justify claim...apparently you're so in love with me its takes other to show you your lies
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Hilarious - bravo completely mischaracterized it, and you pointed that out as well.

Must be a drag to have made such an arse out of yourself on this thread.....
 
Onceler said:
Hilarious - bravo completely mischaracterized it, and you pointed that out as well.

Must be a drag to have made such an arse out of yourself on this thread.....
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still can't find a quote by bravo or me where we say you or anyone else justifies their actions....

thought so liar
 
Yurt said:
YOU CAN'T READ!!!!! YOU'RE PATHOLOGICAL!!!!! YOU'RE STUPID!!!!!!! YOU'RE A HACK!!!!!

^a typical debate with onceler will always end with of one or more of the above^

:lol:
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What can I tell ya? If you say that I claimed yelling fire is protected speech, that I said soldiers don't volunteer and that the pastor is responsible but not abortion docs...you really can't read.

Sorry 'bout that...
 
Onceler said:
This is really as dumb as the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" debate.

According to Yurt, if the guy sitting next to you says he's going to yell it, and you tell him that might not be such a good idea, you are "chilling" his speech, and telling him not to exercise his 1st amendment rights....
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here is onceler saying that yelling fire in a theater is protected speech....if he didn't believe it was protected, there would be no reason for him to claim anyone would say its chilling speech...because you can't chill unprotected speech....at least 3 other posters also knew onceler said and two said he was wrong while dune said he was right and that it was protected....notice onceler never corrected dune

busted again!
 
Onceler said:
What can I tell ya? If you say that I claimed yelling fire is protected speech, that I said soldiers don't volunteer and that the pastor is responsible but not abortion docs...you really can't read.

Sorry 'bout that...
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as predicted

YOU CAN'T READ!!!!!

yeah onceler...its always others who can't read....you ought to reflect on that, you claim that of nearly everyone on the board....pssssssssssssst....the problem lies with you...if you think nearly everyone can't read what you write, you either are a lousy writer or a dishonest prick who never admits he is wrong....i'll go with liar

still waiting for the post where bravo or i said you or anyone justify the actions of the muslims......
 
Onceler said:
What can I tell ya? If you say that I claimed yelling fire is protected speech, that I said soldiers don't volunteer and that the pastor is responsible but not abortion docs...you really can't read.

Sorry 'bout that...
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as predicted

YOU CAN'T READ!!!!!

yeah onceler...its always others who can't read....you ought to reflect on that, you claim that of nearly everyone on the board....pssssssssssssst....the problem lies with you...if you think nearly everyone can't read what you write, you either are a lousy writer or a dishonest prick who never admits he is wrong....i'll go with liar

still waiting for the post where bravo or i said you or anyone justify the actions of the muslims......
 
Yurt said:
here is onceler saying that yelling fire in a theater is protected speech....if he didn't believe it was protected, there would be no reason for him to claim anyone would say its chilling speech...because you can't chill unprotected speech....at least 3 other posters also knew onceler said and two said he was wrong while dune said he was right and that it was protected....notice onceler never corrected dune

busted again!
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I thought you said 2 other posters before? Actually, I think it was just 1 in reality - Damo. This is what pathological liars do, though. I don't say it's protected speech; I was just using it as a "words have consequences" example, but of course, I should have realized that someone in your desperate position would latch onto it for pages & pages of a thread. I'd hate to feel like that - you do have my sympathy there.

But, let's accept that you're right on that, just for the heck of it. Where are the other 2 claims?
 
Onceler said:
I thought you said 2 other posters before? Actually, I think it was just 1 in reality - Damo. This is what pathological liars do, though. I don't say it's protected speech; I was just using it as a "words have consequences" example, but of course, I should have realized that someone in your desperate position would latch onto it for pages & pages of a thread. I'd hate to feel like that - you do have my sympathy there.

But, let's accept that you're right on that, just for the heck of it. Where are the other 2 claims?
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good lord, what a dishonest hack...at the time it was two...then dune chimed in AFTER i said that....it was bravo, damo and dune you dishonest shit fer brains...those who responded know you thought it was protected, else the entire comment makes zero sense....dune even backed you up...but oh no....its everyone else but onceler....you do this all the time, you get busted and instead of simply admitting you're wrong, you claim anyone who busts you can't read

its beyond pathological onceler, its psychotic
 
I'll back off; honestly, I'm really starting to feel bad for the guy.

Yurt, really - you should just back away from the computer for awhile. You're really unhinged...
 
Yurt said:
good lord, what a dishonest hack...at the time it was two...then dune chimed in AFTER i said that....it was bravo, damo and dune you dishonest shit fer brains...those who responded know you thought it was protected, else the entire comment makes zero sense....dune even backed you up...but oh no....its everyone else but onceler....you do this all the time, you get busted and instead of simply admitting you're wrong, you claim anyone who busts you can't read

its beyond pathological onceler, its psychotic
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Can't find those other 2 claims, eh?
 
Onceler said:
Can't find those other 2 claims, eh?
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i went over those with you yesterday....i thought providing one would shut you up

btw....its hilarious how you demanding i show the other two, when i already did yesterday, and you refuse to show ONE single post where either bravo or myself said anyone justifies the actions of those wackos....

post up you little liar
 
Onceler said:
I'll back off; honestly, I'm really starting to feel bad for the guy.

Yurt, really - you should just back away from the computer for awhile. You're really unhinged...
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translation:

must deflect from showing the posts where bravo or yurt said anyone "justifies" the actions of the muslims

lool....another day another onceler lie

yawn
 
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