Pence must have damning evidence against Trump.

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Mr. Pence described some of his conversations with Mr. Trump in his memoir, “So Help Me God.”

Mr. Pence described in the book how Mr. Trump worked with Mr. Eastman to pressure him into doing something that the vice president was clear that he could not and would not do. He wrote that on the morning of Jan. 6, Mr. Trump tried to bludgeon him again on a phone call.

“You’ll go down as a wimp,” the president told the vice president. “If you do that, I made a big mistake five years ago!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/us/politics/pence-grand-jury-trump.html
 
But prosecutors were surely interested in Mr. Pence’s accounts of his interactions with Mr. Trump and Trump advisers including John Eastman, a lawyer who promoted the idea that they could use the congressional certification process on Jan. 6 to give Mr. Trump a chance to remain in office.

That plan relied on Mr. Pence using his role as president of the Senate to hold up the process.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/27/us/politics/pence-grand-jury-trump.html
 
He made some threats to Zelensky and the GA Secretary of State in his phone calls to them.

He did indeed. He threatened withholding of military aid to Ukraine if Z didn't find "dirt on Biden," and he threatened prosecution of the SOS of GA if he didn't comply with the demand to find more votes.
 
Pence and Trump--two completely different kinds of right wing assholes.
Even after having been threatened, the latter may still not even flip on the latter.
 
He made some threats to Zelensky and the GA Secretary of State in his phone calls to them.

???.....what?...according to some unnamed source who knew an unnamed source who was told by is Uncle Fred who was a janitor cleaning the bathroom when it hapenned?........why not listen to the phone calls instead?....
 
???.....what?...according to some unnamed source who knew an unnamed source who was told by is Uncle Fred who was a janitor cleaning the bathroom when it hapenned?........why not listen to the phone calls instead?....

The transcripts were released and Trump said it was a perfect call. The GA Sec of State recorded his phone call. The threats were clear.
 
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