Pelosi introduces bill to give vote to all FELONS nationwide.

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Text Drivers are Killers

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What about their gun rights? Unlike voting, that is a constitutional right and yet federal law bans all felons from having guns.

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/fel...nt=1d09840caddec138a6473c7b9fa19141&source=CI

jan 4 2019House Democrats unveiled details of a sweeping federal elections reform package Friday that, if enacted, would immediately restore voting rights to convicted felons who have completed their prison sentences nationwide.

The bill, titled the “For the People Act,” would also mandate automatic voter registration nationwide for eligible voters that provide information to state government agencies such as the DMV.

The bill holds that “the right of an individual who is a citizen of the United States to vote in any election for Federal office shall not be denied or abridged because that individual has been convicted of a criminal offense.”

Convicted felons who have served their sentence or are sentenced to serve “only a term of probation” would have their voting rights restored, but those incarcerated at the time of an election would be barred from voting.
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if they did their time they deserve to vote again

any country that fears the vote of released prisoners is imprisoning too many people
 
evince said:
if they did their time they deserve to vote again

any country that fears the vote of released prisoners is imprisoning too many people
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How long were you in prison?

"3 IN 4 FORMER PRISONERS IN 30 STATES ARRESTED WITHIN 5 YEARS OF RELEASE APRIL 22, 2014


WASHINGTON – An estimated two-thirds (68 percent) of 405,000 prisoners released in 30 states in 2005 were arrested for a new crime within three years of release from prison, and three-quarters (77 percent) were arrested within five years, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today.

More than a third (37 percent) of prisoners who were arrested within five years of release were arrested within the first six months after release, with more than half (57 percent) arrested by the end of the first year.

These findings are based on a BJS data collection, Recidivism of State Prisoners Released in 2005, which tracked a sample of former prison inmates from 30 states for five years following release in 2005."

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rprts05p0510pr.cfm
 
Bigdog said:
How long were you in prison?

"3 IN 4 FORMER PRISONERS IN 30 STATES ARRESTED WITHIN 5 YEARS OF RELEASE APRIL 22, 2014


WASHINGTON – An estimated two-thirds (68 percent) of 405,000 prisoners released in 30 states in 2005 were arrested for a new crime within three years of release from prison, and three-quarters (77 percent) were arrested within five years, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today.

More than a third (37 percent) of prisoners who were arrested within five years of release were arrested within the first six months after release, with more than half (57 percent) arrested by the end of the first year.

These findings are based on a BJS data collection, Recidivism of State Prisoners Released in 2005, which tracked a sample of former prison inmates from 30 states for five years following release in 2005."

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/rprts05p0510pr.cfm
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Just a question dog...
Back just after I graduated from HS, a friend/classmate was "set up" (by an asshole who was busted for DUI) and sold a 1/4 lb. of weed (a felony) to an informant. He did a stint in prison and after his release he got a job at a service station, married, had 2 kids and ultimately bought his own auto repair shop (which he still operates today). Other than maybe a speeding ticket or two, hasn't been arrested for anything since.
My question is, should that be held against him for the remainder of his life? Should I turn him in for owning a few guns he inherited from his father?

Myself, back when I was 20, I got busted for eluding a police officer (back then it wasn't a felony, today it is). I've had 2 minor traffic violations since (running a stop sign and speeding). If it was a felony back then, I probably couldn't have landed 1 or 2 of the good jobs I've had, become a very successful hunter, firearms instructor or bought the military rifles I used in hi-power rifle competitions.

My point is, not all felons are violent or repeat offenders, many do learn from their mistakes and become productive citizens. Do you think there should be a "time line" where someone can prove their "worth" to regain their rights? Myself, I think they should.
 
evince said:
if they did their time they deserve to vote again

any country that fears the vote of released prisoners is imprisoning too many people
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Should they get their 2nd Amendment rights back as well? Should they be allowed to walk into any store and purchase a gun?

For example, Tyrone Smith is convicted and sentence to 5 years for felony assault of his pregnant girlfriend and kills her unborn baby. He serves 10 years in prison and gets out.

Do you believe that he should get back both his voting rights AND his gun rights?

I believe he should get back both.

PS

I know you give him bonus points for killing the unborn baby. Nice touch right?
 
RB 60 said:
Just a question dog...
Back just after I graduated from HS, a friend/classmate was "set up" (by an asshole who was busted for DUI) and sold a 1/4 lb. of weed (a felony) to an informant. He did a stint in prison and after his release he got a job at a service station, married, had 2 kids and ultimately bought his own auto repair shop (which he still operates today). Other than maybe a speeding ticket or two, hasn't been arrested for anything since.
My question is, should that be held against him for the remainder of his life? Should I turn him in for owning a few guns he inherited from his father?

Myself, back when I was 20, I got busted for eluding a police officer (back then it wasn't a felony, today it is). I've had 2 minor traffic violations since (running a stop sign and speeding). If it was a felony back then, I probably couldn't have landed 1 or 2 of the good jobs I've had, become a very successful hunter, firearms instructor or bought the military rifles I used in hi-power rifle competitions.

My point is, not all felons are violent or repeat offenders, many do learn from their mistakes and become productive citizens. Do you think there should be a "time line" where someone can prove their "worth" to regain their rights? Myself, I think they should.
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The law is the law.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
felons are an important part of the demmycrat base.......
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That's not always true. Some actually do come to their senses, live prosperous lives and vote accordingly. The friend I mentioned above is a conservative.
That said, I doubt many felons would vote anyway.
 
RB 60 said:
That didn't answer my question.
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What does the applicable state law say? Is there a a "time line" where your anonymous "friend" can prove his "worth" to regain his rights?

And, yes, if he is in possession of firearms illegally you are under an obligation to report that fact to the authorities. Failure to do so could make you an accessory if he commits a related felony. Not every state makes it a crime not to report a crime, but it is still every citizen’s responsibility to do so. If you know a felon has possession of a firearm, you should inform the police.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
HAHAHA. And yet america has 40 million illegals and half the country says let them stay in violation of the law.!!!
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DEMOCRATS are highly selective in their stance regarding the rule of law, aren't they?

If allowing criminals to flout the law seems to benefit DEMOCRATS, they don't want that law enforced.

But if applying a law furthers their lust for power, they become vigilant upholders of the law instantly.
 
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